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Operator: Good day, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to TomTom's First Quarter 2026 Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to your host for today's conference, Claudia Janssen, Investor Relations. You may begin. Claudia Janssen: Yes. Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to our conference call. In today's call, we will discuss the Q1 2026 operational highlights and financial results with Harold Goddijn and Taco Titulaer. Harold will begin with an update on strategic developments. Taco will then provide further insight into our financials. After their prepared remarks, we will open the line for your questions. As always, please note that safe harbor applies. With that, Harold, let me, for the last time, hand it over to you. Harold Goddijn: Yes. Thank you. Thank you very much, Claudia, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us. I will start with a brief update on our strategic and operational progress, and then I'll hand over to Taco for the financials. The first quarter of 2026 execution was solid. Profitability continued to improve. Our core Location Technology business, Automotive and Enterprise, both made good progress, while revenue trends reflect the transition we expected this year. In Automotive, we see carmakers accelerating their software strategies and taking more control of the in-vehicle stack. And at the same time, the industry continues to move towards higher levels of automation. Our Lane Model Maps are becoming an important differentiator. We're building on that, working closely with OEMs to support advanced driver assistance and autonomous driving. In Enterprise, we extended both our customer base and our use cases. We strengthened our position in traffic and traffic analytics through new partnerships, including AECOM, Kapsch TrafficCom and LOCUS. These partnerships extend our real-time traffic data into infrastructure planning, traffic management, location intelligence. They also underline the value customers place on quality and depth of our data and on TomTom as a trusted partner. Overall, we are confident in our progress. The steps we are taking, advancing our maps platform and building strategic partnerships position us well for 2026 and beyond. Before I hand over, a few words on the leadership transition we announced in March. Following a structured succession process, Mike Schoofs has been appointed CEO in today's general meeting. Mike has been with TomTom for over 20 years and built our global commercial organization. He knows the company, he knows our customers, and he knows the market inside out. I'm confident he will lead the next phase of our strategy with clarity and momentum. As a co-founder, it's very satisfying to see TomTom move in this next chapter with strong leadership in place. And with that, I'll hand over to Taco for the financials. Taco Titulaer: Thank you, Harold. Let me discuss the financials and after that, we can take your questions. In the first quarter of 2026, group revenue was EUR 129 million, an 8% decrease from last year's EUR 140 million. The decline was in line with the expectations and guidance we provided with our Q4 results. Let me briefly break down our top line performance. Automotive IFRS revenue came in at EUR 76 million for the quarter. That's a 5% decrease compared with the same quarter last year. Automotive operational revenue was EUR 70 million, which is 16% lower year-on-year. The decrease in revenue related from the gradual discontinuation of certain customer programs, along with the effect of a stronger euro relative to the U.S. dollar. Enterprise revenue was EUR 38 million, down 8% year-on-year. Adjusted for currency fluctuations, Enterprise revenue showed a slight increase year-on-year. Taken together, our Location Technology segment generated EUR 114 million in revenue, which is 6% lower than Q1 last year. On a constant currency basis, Location Technology revenue increased marginally. The Consumer segment, as expected, declined versus prior year. Consumer revenue was EUR 15 million, down 21% year-on-year. Q1 2025 was EUR 19 million, reflecting the development of the portable navigation device market. Consumer now represents a smaller part of our total revenue. Gross margin improved to 90% this quarter, up from 88% in Q1 last year. The 2 percentage point increase was driven by a higher proportion of high-margin Location Technology revenue in our revenue mix. Operating expenses were EUR 103 million, a reduction of EUR 15 million compared with the same quarter last year. The decrease is mainly the result of the organizational realignment we carried out last year, which lowered our cost base, combined with the higher capitalization of our investment in Lane Model Maps. As a result of higher gross margin and lower cost, our operating result was EUR 14 million for the quarter, a sharp improvement from EUR 6 million in Q1 last year. Our operating margin was 11%, up from 4% in the same quarter last year. Finally, free cash flow for the quarter improved to a positive inflow of EUR 1 million when excluding restructuring payments compared to a EUR 3 million outflow in Q1 2025. We continued our share buyback program during the quarter. By the end of Q1, we have completed EUR 11 million of the EUR 15 million announced in December last year. We ended Q1 [indiscernible] of EUR 248 million with no debt on the balance sheet. This cash position provides us sufficient stability and flexibility. Our first quarter performance confirms that we are on track for 2026. The revenue decline we saw in Q1, as mentioned before, was anticipated, and we managed to improve our profitability despite the lower revenue. Looking ahead, we are reiterating our full year 2026 outlook. We expect group revenue of EUR 495 million to EUR 555 million in 2026, with Location Technology revenue of EUR 435 million to EUR 485 million and an operating margin around 3% for the full year. As we indicated previously, some transitional headwinds, like the phaseout of certain customer programs, will weigh on this year's top line, but this impact is temporary. Therefore, we're continuing to invest in our Lane Model Maps, which are critical for a higher level of automated driving. As a result, free cash flow for 2026 is expected to be negative. As new automotive programs ramp up and newer products gain traction, we expect higher revenues combined with our ongoing cost discipline to drive a further step-up in operating margin in the long term. And with that, we are ready to take your questions. Operator, please start the Q&A. Operator: [Operator Instructions] We will take our first question. And the question comes from the line of Marc Hesselink from ING. Marc Hesselink: Yes. Thanks, Harold, for all the conversations over the years. I would take the opportunity to also look a little bit beyond for the long term on the question. I think when I started to cover TomTom, like more than a decade ago, one of the big promises was always autonomous driving, driving the long term. I think if you're looking at the market today because of all the developments in AI, both on the side of producing the map, but also on using it and now maybe autonomous driving being much nearer than it has ever been. How do you see that next phase? Is that do you really see that we are now at the start of that next phase and we are going to see major differences for how the map is going to be used and the opportunities in the map and how important it is for autonomous driving? Just giving a little bit your long-term view on how this developed over the years and what's coming in the next few years. Harold Goddijn: Yes, Marc, thank you. Yes. So you're right, the self-driving technology has been a big promise for a very long time. And it has always until recently, I would say, failed to live up to the expectations. What we now witness is a new approach to self-driving technology, more based on AI and self-learning, which is much more promising. And at least in the laboratory, we can see sophisticated levels of self-driving technology being deployed in real cars. So I think from a technology perspective, we are closer to solving the problem than ever before. What remains are the economics and also the regulatory framework, which will follow the technology. But I think from a technology perspective, we are motoring now literally. And we see that also in the demand for our products. Carmakers are now asking for higher levels of accuracy, more dynamic data, lane level information to enable self-driving technology and to provide a powerful additional data set next to the Edge processing that's placed in the car based on sensor information. We have seen that coming back also in the orders and the -- so first of all, the interest in our products and the way we produce our products. But we've also seen it coming back in the order book. We had a big win last year with Volkswagen, as you know, which was a significant contract. And that is a product and a contract clearly aimed at higher levels of automation. To what level exactly, remains to be seen. But what we do see is higher degree of automation than we have seen before. And also that technology will enter into the mainstream sooner or later. And we've seen comparable questions and demands from other OEMs. Some of those demands have translated into contracts, but there's also a healthy pipeline in '26, '27 to go further than that. Last thing, I think, is another trend that we're witnessing, is that carmakers want to have -- seem to prefer a unified map offering that is both suitable for navigation and display and map rendering and at the same time, can power the robot of the self-driving system. And the reason for that is that the self-driving system is also looking for a way to communicate with the driver what's happening. And when you do that on the same data set, it's technically an easier problem to solve. So we see a preference developing for united -- unified map that does both the traditional navigation and route planning, traffic information as well as being the sensor for the robot, for the self-driving part of the vehicle. Marc Hesselink: Okay. That is clear. Maybe as a follow-up, I think also there, the debate has been the same for a long period of time, which is, is a map layer needed for this autonomous driving, yes or no? And I think there is still a debate, at least reading through all kinds of articles on that one. I guess there's still the redundancy element of the map. Anything which you can add in the most recent conversations with your clients why a map would be required for functioning autonomous driving in the right way? Harold Goddijn: Yes. So it's a bit of a marketing story as well, I think, from vendors who are offering self-driving technology that is "mapless." We don't know of those systems that are mapless. They don't -- they do not exist other than in the laboratory and are not battle-hardened. The -- I think one of -- the way to think about it is that it makes self-driving technology easier when you do have a map and more reliable and redundant. And the big challenge for software developers is not to fix the first 95% of accuracy. That is kind of a solved problem. The real problem is to solve for the last 5%. That is the hardest bit. And solving that last 5% is a whole lot easier if you have a reliable map underpinning your system than doing it without a map. And we see that also translated in our own interactions with customers, both OEMs, but also providers of self-driving systems that we are closely aligned with and talking to, to see how we can collectively come up with a system that is robust, reliable, but also, I have to say, affordable. One of the reasons that the old HD Map never took off is cost. And cost was a problem because we were driving those roads ourselves with mapping vans. And that's, A, expensive; and B, does not provide for regular updates and a too long cycle time. With the new technology, the new approach, we have solved for both those problems, cost as well as cycle time and freshness. So I think the market opportunity is wide open. And I think that battle will play over the next 2, 3 years, I think, for presence in that self-driving ecosystem. Marc Hesselink: Great. And then final question from my side is, leveraging that one also in the enterprise segment, because I can imagine that the point you just mentioned, cost, freshness, cycle time, eventually also very important beyond automotive. I think at the Capital Markets Day, this point was quite promising, then it leveled off a bit. But maybe now with the progress we've made over the last 2 years, is it time that this one also can see some reignited growth? Harold Goddijn: I think the product challenges on the enterprise side are slightly different. There is some overlap, but the challenges are not the same. The Lane Model Maps is -- the development of that is predominantly driven by the requirements of carmakers and systems providers of automated driving systems. But I do expect overlap in the Enterprise world. And I think given its sufficient time, it will be harder to start distinguishing between what we call SD Map or -- and a lane-level map. So those worlds will come together. There will be some overlap, but growth in the Enterprise sector will come from mostly initially from other initiatives that we are deploying. And I think we're getting on track also a little bit better on the Enterprise side, in filling that pipeline better than we have been able to do in 2025. So I think the initial signs on the Enter sides are encouraging. Marc Hesselink: Okay. Great. Thanks for all the conversations over the years. Harold Goddijn: Thank you. Thank you for covering us. It was a pleasure. Operator: [Operator Instructions] We will take our next question. And the question comes from the line of Andrew Hayman from Independent Minds. Andrew Hayman: Yes, Harold, just maybe one clarification. You just mentioned that the old HD Maps never took off because of cost. Does that mean you've changed the pricing on the lane-level maps? Harold Goddijn: No, we have not necessarily changed the pricing. But the -- I think everybody understood that scaling that Edge-level HD Map, as we did it 10 years ago, was just too expensive and prohibitive. We have seen traction on the HD Map, and we still have customers driving with that HD Map. But everybody understands that if you want to improve the freshness and more importantly, if you want to improve the coverage, and when I say coverage, it's basically beyond motorways, there you end up in an unprofitable business case very, very quickly. So it's not the unit price so much that I'm talking about, but it's more the capabilities of the product. Carmakers as well as systems providers are looking for coverage and accuracy on all roads, not just motorways. And motorways is only, what is it, 5% of the total road network, is motorways. The rest is all secondary and tertiary and local roads. And so if you want to do an accurate product on all roads, including freshness, then the old technology could never deliver that. Andrew Hayman: Okay. And then maybe if I look at the forecast for 2026, it's quite a large range for revenue overall. It's a span of EUR 60 million. And then for the Location Technology component, it's a span of EUR 50 million. What's the thought process behind that range? Is it just that there's so much uncertainty at the moment about car production levels? Taco Titulaer: Yes. It's a bit of that, of course. Currency plays a role as well. So for all the 3 revenue-generating units, there is a bell curve of expectations. We do think that the middle of both revenue ranges is the best guidance that we can give. Andrew Hayman: Okay. Okay. And then on the change in management, I mean, there's clearly considerable continuity because Mike has been with TomTom for a long time and Harold, you're moving up to the Supervisory Board. But any new CEO is going to want to make adjustments or emphasize different areas or components. Do you -- what changes do you see happening under Mike going forward? Harold Goddijn: Well, that's for Mike to talk through, and I'm sure he will do that in -- when it's his turn in 3 months from now and start to give you some of his ideas. What I want to say is this, I think we have [indiscernible]. We've gone through a major product transition over the last years that has led to a competitive product. Based on the product, there is market share to be gained. And I think we're well positioned. That needs to land, and there's all sort of things that can go wrong, obviously. But net-net, I think that is a -- that gives focus and clarity of what we need to do at least in the next 12 to 24 months. And I think that's good. But of course, the world is changing rapidly. It's not only what we see geopolitically in terms of tariffs and in terms of energy and whatnot, but it's also the impact of AI potentially going forward that will have a significant effect on how we do things, how customers are consuming upward. I think the -- our anchor product, the map, is safe, and we will use AI to optimize processes and make it cheaper to maintain it. But that anchor product is good. And AI will have -- and the way we deploy AI going forward will -- and how the world evolves around AI, will affect the company like any other company in the world. So those are the -- I think, for the moment, the 2 big axes where we need to follow progress going forward. Andrew Hayman: And then maybe on a smaller note. On enterprise, it's -- if you adjust for currency, it's growing, but it's not having the easiest time. And if we look back to you joining with OSM, the idea was that you get more detailed maps and that may open up more market opportunities or expand the potential market for your maps, maybe social, travel and food delivery. How is that going? I mean, are you making some progress, but the clients are quite small in those areas that you're getting through? And how do you see that progressing? Harold Goddijn: Well, yes, I think it's a good question, Andrew. I think -- and then 2025 was slightly disappointing in terms of order intake and traction around -- always in the Enterprise market. But I think we have turned the corner, and we see some early green shoots. I think that central promise of having a better map that's easier to maintain is valid also for the Enterprise world. And we are now pitching for contracts and opportunities that we could not win based on the old technology. So the addressable market is -- and I mean, there's tons of examples of that. So it's slightly disappointing that it's taken longer. But I think the central idea of having a better map, more detail, more freshness, more efficient to maintain is still valid. And I hope that we will see that also being translated into Enterprise growth in 2026 and beyond. Operator: We will take our next question. The next question comes from the line of Wim Gille from ABN AMRO-ODDO. Wim Gille: This is Wim from ABN ODDO. Apologies for the noise, but I'm in the train. So I hope you can hear me. First, on the rollout of the lane-level maps, you started off just in Germany. So can you give us a bit of clarity on where you are in the rollout in terms of number of countries? But also, are you still just on the motorways? Or are you basically doing all the other roads as well throughout Germany as well as the other countries that you're rolling out? The second question would be on capitalized R&D. That seems to suggest you're accelerating the investments that you're doing in the rollout. So can you give us a bit more clarity on that decision? Is that based on the demand? Or are you basically just needing to invest more to get to the same results that you were looking for? And what is the reception of clients since you introduced this concept earlier last year? Harold Goddijn: Yes, Wim. Yes, you're coming through loud and clear. So no worries on that side. Yes. So the Lane Model product, our goal is to build it completely automated. So expanding coverage is just a matter of compute and electricity, but no other practical limitations on coverage and speed of production. That's where we want to end up. That's not where we are. There is a certain level of fallout following those automated processes. And that means that manual labor and operator interaction, in some cases, is required to filter out inconsistencies to checks and so on and so forth. So -- and we are in a position now where we are producing, but we are also making investments to reduce that fallout in order to prevent manual labor and improve the speed of the process and the associated coverage. The idea is that by the end of the year, we have a fully lane-level map, both for North America and for Europe. We're producing it now for parts of Germany, whilst improving the processes, improving the factory in the pipelines, if you like. And the aim is to reduce the amount of manual labor we need to produce those maps close to zero. It will probably never get to zero, but it needs to get close to zero because that gives us speed, flexibility and efficiency but also quality. Wim Gille: And what are clients saying about the products? Harold Goddijn: So people are excited that it's possible. We are producing a product that could not be produced before. They're excited that it has been developed with a view to serve security and safety critical applications. So it's an industry strength product. That's also how the quality systems are designed to make sure that we meet those standards. So yes, both carmakers and systems providers are excited that there is a product that can play an important role, and they're looking at progress with interest. We will start doing test driving with integrated systems now or in the next couple of months or something like that where we get for the first time, real-time feedback on how the system, not the map, but the system with the map is behaving in practice and in real-life situations. So those are important milestones. Taco Titulaer: Yes. If I can add to that. Then you also had a question about CapEx. So in the cash flow statement, you see that line investment in intangible assets, that's indeed higher than what it was last year same quarter. I expect that to normalize between "below EUR 10 million" going forward. So it is more -- yes, I wouldn't call a one-off, but it's not a clear trend that it now will go up every quarter. Wim Gille: Very good. And if you are now participating in RFQs, specifically related to HD, I can suspect that most of the RFQs that you're participating in are now HD driven and no longer [indiscernible]. But how is your product [indiscernible] up against the competition? So are you still producing HD Maps in the old way? And what does it do to your competitive pricing advantage? And which parties do you actually engage in these RFQs? I can only assume that here -- is there -- and in some cases, Google. But do you also see newcomers joining in these RFQs? Harold Goddijn: Sorry, Wim, I tried to understand your question. It was not entirely clear, to be honest, the first part in particular. Yes. So in terms of market position, I think we are currently leading in specs in ambition. Of course, we need to deliver all that goodness as well. And our internal target is by the end of this year to have significant coverage on both continents. And I think that will be a leading and it is a leading product both in terms of what it does and how it is produced, which is not a minor point actually. In this case, it really matters how you produce it because it tells you something about economics, quality, repeatability and so on and so forth. And there is significant interest, I think, from industry players, in what's going on. And so we feel good about that. I think Google obviously is an important competitor, but Google has a tendency to leverage consumer-grade products for the automotive world. And this is not typically an area where they're focusing on. Wim Gille: And are you encountering any new competition in RFQ processes? Harold Goddijn: No, no, we do not. It depends how you define competition, but I think there's no one else that I know of that has an integrated approach to both navigation, self-driving, ADAS, all on one product stack. Wim Gille: And with respect to enterprise, I do have a question on kind of the conversion and basically the acceleration that you are seeing at the moment. Can you give us a bit of feeling on kind of what types of, let's say, projects you are now converting or are close to converting? Are these still the smaller projects? Are we also now looking at the bigger clients and the ones that can really move the needle? Harold Goddijn: Yes. Yes, I think I wouldn't say acceleration. I think what I've said, I've used the word green shoots, some -- both contracts but also a pipeline that is building. A couple of areas where we see good traction, insurtech, defense. There are significant opportunities opening up, intelligence, public usage of our data, both traffic planning, intelligence. Those are the sectors where we see the order book and the pipeline really filling up. And some of those opportunities are significant as well, multiple millions per annum. Wim Gille: Thank you. And that leaves me with, yes, basically one last comment. So I would like to thank you for, I think, close to 80 earnings calls that we did together. No doubts. Harold Goddijn: this sounds like an awful lot, Wim. Wim Gille: It is. Harold Goddijn: This sounds like an awful lot. But thank you very much. It's been a privilege and a pleasure. Wim Gille: likewise. Thank you. Operator: [Operator Instructions] Claudia Janssen: As there seem to be no additional questions, I want to thank you all for joining us today. And Heidi, you may now close the call. Operator: Thank you. This concludes today's presentation. Thank you for your participance. You may now disconnect.
Operator: Greetings, and welcome to the Prologis Q1 2026 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce Justin Meng, Senior Vice President, Head of Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin. Justin Meng: Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to our first quarter 2026 earnings conference call. Joining us today are Dan Letter, CEO; Tim Arndt, CFO; and Chris Caton, Managing Director. I'd like to note that this call will contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws and including statements regarding our outlook, expectations and future performance. These statements are based on the current assumptions and are subject to risks and uncertainties and that could cause actual results to differ materially. Please refer to our SEC filings for a discussion of these risks. We undertake no obligation to update any forward-looking statements. Additionally, during this call, we will discuss certain financial measures such as FFO and EBITDA that are non-GAAP. And in accordance with Reg G, we have provided a reconciliation to the most directly comparable GAAP measures in our first quarter earnings press release and supplemental. Both are available on our website at www.prologis.com. And with that, I will hand the call over to Dan. Dan Letter: Thank you, Justin. Good morning, and thank you for joining us. We entered 2026 with solid momentum, and we saw that continue in our first quarter results. While the geopolitical backdrop has become more uncertain in recent weeks, our business continues to perform at a very high level, supported by resilient demand, disciplined execution and the strength and scale of our global platform. Last quarter, we outlined our top 3 priorities for the business. Let me highlight how our strategy is translating into results across operations, value creation and capital formation. First, we delivered another quarter of record leasing with 64 million square feet of signings supported by both strong retention and healthy new leasing activity. Occupancy exceeded our expectations, and we are raising our full year outlook. Second, we are putting our land bank to work across logistics and data centers with $2.1 billion of starts in the quarter, of which $1.3 billion was data center build-to-suits. The depth of customer interest for our data center offerings is significant, and we believe our ability to bring together land, power and development expertise is a key differentiator for our business and positions us to capture a growing share of this opportunity. And third, we are expanding our strategic capital platform. We announced a $1.6 billion joint venture with GIC and subsequent to quarter end, a $1.2 billion joint venture with La Caisse. These partnerships reflect strong investor demand for our platform and our ability to deploy capital into high-quality opportunities worldwide. Taken together, these initiatives reinforce a simple point. We are building a broader, more resilient platform, one that is positioned to compound growth over time. Before I pass the call to Tim, let me briefly address the geopolitical backdrop. The conflict in the Middle East has introduced yet another source of economic uncertainty, most directly through higher energy prices and renewed pressure on inflation and interest rates. Rather than speculate, I'll focus on what we are seeing in our data, what we're hearing from our customers and how we are operating the business. Our lease signings, proposal volume and build-to-suit pipeline point to continued strength in underlying demand. In fact, March was a very active month for new leasing. By comparison, when our business faced abrupt tariff-related uncertainty in April of 2025, the pause in leasing activity was relatively immediate before flowing out in the following weeks and months. At the same time, our customer insights are grounded in direct ongoing engagement with hundreds of real-time interactions each quarter. Seven weeks into this conflict, most are actively monitoring the situation and they are telling us 2026 business plans are unchanged. The risk today is that uncertainty slows customer decision-making. We have not seen meaningful evidence of that to date. That said, we're operating with a heightened level of awareness guided by the same discipline that has defined our business for decades. This is a time-tested platform and the structural drivers of growth across logistics, digital infrastructure and energy remain firmly in place. And with that, I'll hand the call to Tim to walk you through our results and outlook. Timothy Arndt: Thank you, Dan. Turning straight to our results. We delivered a solid quarter, executing well against our strategic priorities in a dynamic environment. First quarter core FFO was $1.50 per share, including net promote expense and $1.52 per share, excluding this expense, each ahead of our expectations. We ended the quarter with occupancy of 95.3%, reflecting the seasonal drop we telegraphed and typically experience each first quarter. Retention remained very strong at nearly 76%. Net effective rent change was more muted this quarter at 32%, driven primarily by market mix. Our expectation for full year rent change to approach 40% on a net effective basis remains unchanged. Our lease mark-to-market ended the quarter at 17% on a net effective basis. The rate of decline has slowed meaningfully, due in part by an uptick in market rents this quarter, the first increase in 2.5 years. Our lease mark-to-market represents approximately $750 million of embedded NOI at spot rents, which, of course, do not reflect the replacement cost rent upside, which should materialize over time as occupancies improve. Same-store NOI growth was 6.1% on a net effective basis and 8.8% on cash. In addition to the year-over-year occupancy increase and the growing contribution of rent change, the period also benefited from unusually low bad debt. In terms of capital deployment, we had a fantastic quarter. We started $2.1 billion of new development, including $850 million in logistics and $1.3 billion in 2 data center projects. Within logistics, approximately 75% of the starts were speculative, reflecting improving fundamentals and our confidence in the need for new supply across many of our markets. Our data center starts totaled 350 megawatts between 1 ground-up development at an existing campus and 1 conversion out of our portfolio. Both projects are pre-leased on a long-term basis to leading technology companies with strong investment-grade credit. Customer interest in our powered sites is exceptional with 1.3 gigawatts under LOI and all of our power pipeline in some level of discussion. We ended the quarter with 5.6 gigawatts of energy either secured or in advanced stages which reflects the stabilization of another 150-megawatt facility during the quarter. Simply assuming a power cell format at $3 million per megawatt, our current pipeline could provide well over $15 billion of investment and multiples of that in a turnkey format, creating significant potential for value creation. Continue to scale our solar and storage business, meaning customer demand and completing 42 projects during the quarter, bringing us to a total of 1.3 gigawatts of installed capacity. In terms of capital recycling, we sold or contributed approximately $1.2 billion of assets during the quarter. This included initial activity within the U.S. Agility Fund announced last quarter as well as seed assets for our new venture with GIC. Before turning to our markets, I'd like to take a moment to highlight that we marked the 10-year anniversary of Prologis Ventures, our corporate venture capital arm. We've now invested $300 million across more than 50 companies providing visibility to emerging technologies and solutions in the supply chain to stay ahead of disruption, drive innovation and discover new opportunities. Overall, we progressed further through the stages of inflection with demand strengthening vacancy topping out and an increase in the number of markets providing positive rent growth. Our U.S. markets absorbed 45 million square feet, a solid result on a seasonally adjusted basis, slightly ahead of our forecast and consistent with our own leasing experience in the quarter. The U.S. vacancy rate was flat sequentially at 7.5%, aided by lower completion levels as the construction pipeline remains favorable at just 1.7% of stock compared to a 10-year average of 2.6%. We still expect a relative balance between supply and demand, which would allow vacancy to drift lower over the year. Globally, market rents grew 30 basis points during the quarter. And barring an economic slowdown, we expect growth to continue, although it may be uneven quarter-to-quarter as conditions firm. In the U.S., the strongest growth remains in many of our Central and Southeast markets, while Latin America, Western Europe, the U.K. and Japan stand out internationally. Southern California is performing in line with our expectations, which is to say it is improving but will lag other markets. We're seeing stronger leasing activity and a more constructive tone from customers and vacancy has increased modestly and rents have declined slightly, again, both consistent with our outlook as the market continues to progress through its earlier stages of inflection. Moving to our customers. Our recent leasing has been supported by a broader mix of transactions across both size category and geography. Even after delivering record leasing in the quarter, our pipeline has not only replenished but in fact, reached new highs reflecting strong underlying and ongoing demand. With large space format now essentially sold out in our portfolio, we're seeing activity broaden into other unit sizes alongside strength in our build-to-suit demand where our pipeline continues to be healthy. From a segment perspective, demand remains strong in essential goods and e-commerce, with increasing momentum among data center suppliers. Decision-making is marginally slower, the leasing activity remains robust, and we have not seen any meaningful evidence of pullback. In capital markets, transaction volumes have increased with an encouraging amount of product currently in the market across core, core plus and value-add strategies and spanning both single asset and portfolio transactions. What stands out is the pricing premium for quality. Assets with strong locations, functionality and credit are attracting the deepest buyer pools with cap rates on market rents around 5% and unlevered IRRs in the mid-7s. Turning to strategic capital. We closed commitments for 3 additional vehicles, including a new venture with GIC, which will develop and hold U.S. build-to-suit opportunities and an expansion of our relationship with La Caisse through a pan-European venture focused on both development and acquisition strategies. We also launched a new acquisition vehicle in Japan. Between these ventures as well as the Agility Fund and CREIT closings announced last quarter, we've raised over $2.6 billion of third-party equity, aligning capital with growing investment opportunities in a more accretive format. And finally, on our balance sheet, we raised $5.5 billion in new financing during the quarter at a weighted average rate of approximately 3.75%. This includes the $3 billion recast of one of our 3 credit facilities at a spread of just 63 basis points, the lowest of any REIT. Turning to guidance, which I'll review at our share. We are increasing our forecast for average occupancy to a range of 95% to [indiscernible]. This increase, together with our first quarter outperformance drives our expectations for net effective same-store growth to 4.75% to 5.5% and cash growth to 6.25% to 7%. And Strategic capital revenue is now expected to range between $660 million and $680 million, and G&A is expected to range between $510 million and $525 million. As for deployment, we are increasing development starts to $4.5 billion to $5.5 billion, this on an own and managed basis with approximately 40% allocated to data center build-to-suits. Acquisitions will continue to range between $1 billion and $1.5 billion, and our combined contribution and disposition activity will range between $3.5 billion and $4.5 billion, all at our share. Putting it together, our strong start has us increasing our outlook on earnings. Net earnings will range between $3.80 and $4.05 per share. Core FFO, including net promote expense will range between $6.07 and $6.23 per share, while core FFO, excluding net promote expense will range between $6.12 and $6.28 per share an 80 basis point increase from our prior midpoint. In closing, the strength of our business is evident against the backdrop of ongoing volatility. We are anchored by a portfolio of irreplaceable assets generating durable and growing cash flows, a disciplined approach to capital deployment, a scaled asset management platform and a fortress balance sheet. At the same time, we continue to expand in our adjacent businesses in energy and data centers, providing additional avenues for growth. We're excited by the strong start we've had, are proud of our team's execution and are well positioned to deliver excellent results over the balance of the year. With that, I'll turn the call back to the operator for your questions. Operator: [Operator Instructions] And your first question comes from Ronald Kamden with Morgan Stanley. Ronald Kamdem: Great. Congrats on the record leasing in the quarter. And I think I heard you mention that the pipeline is also back at record. I guess my question is just on the leasing spread. That looks like slightly [indiscernible] in the quarter. Just any comments there and how you guys are thinking about occupancy versus pricing going forward for the rest of the year? Timothy Arndt: Ron, yes, the quarter, I mentioned there was some mix going on in the numbers you see about 40% of the role by happen stands happen to be in our West region in the U.S. where we have some softer conditions and lower lease mark-to-market, as you're aware. So that impacted both rent change and things like free rent that you'll see in the SEP. In terms of balancing around occupancy and rent change, it's really not only market by market, it's really deal by deal. I would say out there, we have a pretty wide mix of market conditions, as you know, some exceedingly tight and some still soft, and that can happen at the submarket or even the unit level. So I'd say, in aggregate, we are in a mode of pushing rents in a number of markets and situations. But still preserving for some occupancy. Operator: Your next question comes from Michael Griffin with Evercore ISI. Michael Griffin: Just wanted to ask on the data center development leasing front. It obviously seems like some good news announced in the quarter. But mean is there a worry we've heard things in the news around data center development opportunities around the country, getting shelved the local municipalities pushing back. Is that a risk for this pipeline? Or do you feel for these projects you've got underway even with the secured power that you're able to go forward and lease these and ultimately create that value that you've been talking about? Dan Letter: Michael, this is Dan. So our pipeline in the build-to-suit for data centers is very strong. You saw these 2 starts that we announced this quarter. We've been guiding for the year for the first time on what we expect to see. We've got 1.3 gigawatts of deals under LOI, and we're making further progress converting the pipeline I feel really good about what we have going. And I think that accounts for the next 3 years' worth of business and everything we're hearing from our customers is they need the space. Operator: The next question comes from Craig Mailman with Citi. Nicholas Joseph: It's Nick Joseph here with Craig. I appreciate the added disclosure on the data centers what we assume development margins on the new starts this quarter? I think in the past, you've talked about 25% to 50% margin. So how do these starts compared to that range? Dan Letter: So when you look at our start volume for the quarter, then obviously the blend of both our logistics that includes build-to-suits. It includes spec, where we've more spec going on this quarter than we've had the last several quarters. And then on the data center front, I would keep it within the range that you've heard us talk about the last few years, it's 25% to 50% better or higher than what you see in our typical logistics margins. Operator: Your next question comes from Blaine Heck with Wells Fargo. Blaine Heck: It seems as though average occupancy outperformed expectations during the quarter. I know you guys raised the guidance slightly, but given that the occupancy guidance doesn't lead much upside from Q1, is there anything kind of timing related that happened such that where we could see some more downside in Q2 than was initially expected? Or is there just maybe some conservatism in that guidance since we're still early in the year. And as Dan mentioned, visibility is somewhat more challenged. Timothy Arndt: Blaine, we outperformed average occupancy by around 20 basis points in the quarter. You see a lift in our full year using the midpoint of our guidance of around [indiscernible] points. So in excess of that, that reflects 2 things. There is one, some pulling forward of occupancy, mainly that's going to manifest in the form of surprise renewals, that kind of thing. And then also reflects the strength of the pipeline. As I mentioned, we had a lot of activity both in signings. That's half of it, but then the overall size of proposals standing today is large enough that gives us the confidence for the rest of the piece of that race. Operator: Next, we have Andrew Berger with Bank of America. Unknown Analyst: It sounds like 1Q net absorption was a bit ahead of your expectation. Can you just share your latest views on the fundamental outlook for 2026? Christopher Caton: Sure, it's Chris. So our view is unchanged. We're moving through the inflection phase, as Dan and Tim described in the script. There's very little change to our view. That's net absorption on pace to approach 200 million square feet and completions, 190 million square feet this year. So that will see rents and occupancies, market rents and occupancy is improving over the year. So like you proposed there, like you described, Q1 was modestly better. And -- but we're going to hold our core assumptions. This is a macro landscape that's going to evolve over the course of the year. It will be shaped by the magnitude and duration of the conflict in the Middle East. And so our outlook is balancing that risk against what we see which is resilient customer demand, as Dan described in his prepared remarks, we also leveraged the economic consensus. And they have been marking to market their view, taking it down sometimes 40 basis points in the back half of the year. But look, stepping back, the baseline view is intact, and there is ongoing momentum in the marketplace. Operator: Next, we have Nicholas Yulico with Scotiabank. Nicholas Yulico: I just want to turn back to some of the market commentary on -- which was helpful. Wanted to see if we could get a little bit more details on some of the U.S. laggard markets. I know you already talked about Southern California, but perhaps New York, New Jersey, other markets that maybe aren't outperforming what kind of needs to change to get better rent growth there. And then in terms of the Europe exposure, if you could just also talk about non-U.K. countries and sort of latest feeling you're hearing from customers since there is a lot of questions about how energy prices in Europe could affect the economy over there. Christopher Caton: It's Chris. I'll jump in. So first off, in the U.S., there are 3 or 4 things to reflect on. Number one, there is a growing range of healthy geographies in the U.S. Places like Texas generally, South Houston and Dallas are either strong or healthy, Atlanta and increasingly some of the Midwest markets, something about Columbia, something about Indianapolis. So there's that strength that Tim described in his prepared remarks. Yes, specifically after soft markets, the 2 softest markets are probably L.A. County and Seattle in the United States. Those are areas where vacancy rates are very elevated relative to history. The pace of incoming demand is muted. And so the recovery is yet to play out there. In terms of some core markets, you asked after New York, New Jersey, I'd also throw in San Francisco Bay Area. These are areas where we're upgrading our views. In general now, we're entering a phase where we're upgrading our assessment of markets and New York, New Jersey is a great example of it. Is it time for rent growth there? No, not quite yet. This is a year where we're going through a transition phase like we've talked about, but it's just worth knowing that we have a bias to upgrading areas. Vacancy rates have peaked are beginning to come down toning customer demand is positive. Turning to Europe. So first off, the Western European geographies of like Germany and the Netherlands are leading that marketplace. And we have the dialogue that was described in the prepared remarks, we have it globally, and that includes your Euro and the tone there is positive. Business plans are intact and customers are moving forward with their real estate requirements. Dan Letter: Maybe one thing I would add on here is just focusing on the unit size or building size, anything over, call it, large format, 500,000 square feet or above, we're nearly sold out. We're 98% leased across the globe at that size. So you'll start seeing rent growth there, certainly. Operator: Next, we have Vikram Malhotra with Mizuho. Vikram Malhotra: Congrats on the strong quarter. Just 2 clarifications. So I think last quarter, you had said as we enter the back half of the year, we'd like to see some markets where annualized rent growth could maybe eclipse your rent bumps I'm just wondering if you can give us a bit more color, like what -- which markets are you seeing real rent growth on an annualized basis? And then if you can just clarify on the same-store NOI outlook, the cash outlook, given the number you had in it does suggest a decel. So what's sort of driving that? Or I guess, what drove the big pop in 1Q versus the guide? Christopher Caton: Vikram, I'll start with market rent growth, and Tim will take some of the same-store questions. I like the way you worded the question there trying to get really specific numbers out of me. I don't recall that we would have put it that way. But let me just tell you the healthiest geographies including in Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, Columbus, also outside the U.S. places in Latin America like Sao Paulo and the Mexico City, these are the leading geographies for rent growth. Timothy Arndt: And Vikram, on the cash piece, yes, our guidance reflects our expectations clearly, the first quarter is benefiting from some occupancy comps a bit more favorable in the first quarter about the cadence of 2025. We built occupancy over the course of that year. So those comps get to be a lesser effect and then rent change, of course, is powerful rolling through the portfolio. But on a year-over-year basis, as spreads get a little bit more relaxed, that contributes lesser to quarter-over-quarter -- well, sorry, year-over-year for the same quarters in terms of same-store. Operator: Next, we have Tom Catherwood with BTIG. William Catherwood: Excellent. Maybe going back to the data centers for a second. Even when power is secured, it seems like there's a supply chain crunch on the equipment side, which is creating bottlenecks, especially with turnkey developments. Are you able to get ahead of that by preordering material and equipment similar to what you did during the pandemic? And if so, is it giving you an advantage when it comes to your build-to-suit negotiations? Dan Letter: Thanks, Tom. The short answer is yes, absolutely. Procurement, our fortress of a balance sheet and ability to get out in front of these long lead items is absolutely a differentiator for us. And what I'd say is just overall, this machine we've built and that we focused on so much over the last 3 years around building these capabilities across this company, whether it be procurement, data center expertise we've built in a big way over the last few years. It's leading to this pipeline that you see and the confidence that we have in putting these numbers out there and I'll actually correct something I said earlier on today and an earlier question around margins. Margins are actually 25% to 50%, not 25% to 50% better than logistics. And these are very profitable deals. Keeping in mind, our pipeline is built on the foundation of logistics basis, buildings and land. Operator: Next, we have Caitlin Burrows with Goldman Sachs. Caitlin Burrows: You might have touched on this a bit in the prepared remarks in terms of 3 points of focus. But Tim, you mentioned the new GIC and La Caisse JVs the acquisition vehicle in Japan, the Agility Fund. It just seems like a lot. So I'm wondering if there's some new increased focus on the strategic capital business, are those coincidental timing? Or is there some bigger push kind of on the fund side? And is there any core differences between these new funds and the existing ones? Timothy Arndt: Kate. Look, we're really proud and excited of the number of vehicles. We've launch now in the last 2 quarters, 5 new vehicles, spanning geographies and formats, but also risk appetite. One thing that you see between the U.S. Agility funds launched last quarter, as well as the venture announced here is spanning into some development activities. And it's very purposeful. We're getting ahead of what we see as growing deployment volumes on one part in logistics, you see us ramping up our guidance there as markets are improving. This is a machine that ought to be able to do $5 billion to $6 billion pretty easily, I would say, with our land bank and the size of our platform. But that's being matched up with this incredible data center opportunity that Dan is speaking to. And we are looking at the capital needs there and finding the right ways to get to all of those opportunities. actually in a smarter, more capital-efficient format that can yield fees and promotes. So you're seeing that branching now to exhibited in the announcement of these vehicles. Operator: Next, we have Michael Goldsmith with UBS. Michael Goldsmith: Lease proposal pipelines picked up quite a bit in the first quarter here. So can you provide a little bit more context around it? What's driving it? What sectors is coming from, what sizes and how should that translate to actual leasing in the current quarters. Christopher Caton: It's Chris. So what's underpinning that is customers have been deferring growth requirements sitting through -- sitting on their net needs and they're increasingly responding to the growth in their businesses, the opportunity to invest in their supply chains and as far as slices, it's diverse. So there are a couple of different ways we can look at it, whether it's by size. And so there's growth, say, for example, both above and below 100,000 square foot unit sizes. There's growth, for example, in terms of organizational types. So say international scale customers versus our local scale customers. Those are both growing as well as both renewal and new requirements. So there is diversity there. Operator: Next, we have Vince Tibone with Green Street. Vince Tibone: I wanted to follow up on your comment that data center suppliers are increasingly taking down logistics warehouse I just wanted to get your perspective on how material this demand driver could be in the coming years and also how sustainable? Like is it all tied to construction and this could be shorter-term leases? Or is this about servicing existing data centers as well. So I just -- yes, I'm trying to get a sense of like how -- is this a new structural demand driver for the space, what percentage of new leases maybe it's represented in last quarter or 2, if you're able to share. I just wanted to kind of pick your brain on that kind of seemingly new side of warehouse demand. Christopher Caton: Yes, Vince, you're right. It is a new structural driver of logistics real estate demand. It has gone from, say, less than 5% of new leasing a year ago to now 10% of new leasing, and it's an even greater share of the forward-looking pipeline. So there's absolutely upside over the near term as a consequence of this driver. In terms of the breadth and duration, I suppose, number one, we see them signing deals with really healthy term. There is a shift in their own supply chains going from -- I think you could think about it as unbundling manufacturing and distribution to having distribution, a more regionalized and close than production of the data centers. And so there's really solid momentum here, and you're right to describe it as a new structural driver for logistics real estate. Operator: Next we have Michael Carroll with RBC Capital Markets. Michael Carroll: With regard to the data center opportunity, how do these tenants discussions progress when deciding between pursuing a power base or a turnkey build-out I'm assuming these are different tenants that would want the power base builds. Is that fair? And how much of the opportunity that you kind of quoted in your prepared remarks could potentially be turnkey. Dan Letter: Every discussion, every deal is different, let's put it that way. And different users have different mindsets at different periods of time. So -- what you see from us, we were heavily focused on the powered shell side of this as you start these discussions. And then we've -- you've seen us deliver some powered shell plus really, we're trying to just work through the customer what they need from us and about how we capitalize this business longer term, maybe you see some more turnkey from us over time, but really, it's just a matter of who your -- what customer you're talking to and what's on their mind at the time. And... Timothy Arndt: Yes. And yield, what is their respective cost of capital is the other thing I see us coming up against because the migration up to turnkey can be expensive. Operator: Next up, we have Nick Thillman with Baird. Nicholas Thillman: Tim, I wanted to circle back on some of the commentary you had on the acquisition side and cap rates. Obviously, varying degrees of demand from a fundamental standpoint and the leasing side. understand your comments on just core portfolio transactions and quality buys, but it seems historically relative to historical trends, just cap rates by market or historically tight. I'm wondering if you guys could provide a little bit more commentary on markets where maybe you're seeing cap rates expand a little bit more? Or maybe you're seeing a little bit more compression on the transaction side. Dan Letter: Nick, I would say cap rates certainly expanded over the last few years. They've been holding pretty steady for the last 5, 6 quarters or so. We obviously dive deep into this volumes. Volumes themselves are actually, I would say, normalized. And so -- and those cap rates at a market it's going to be a range between 5% and 5.5% depending on the location quality. You're seeing more of a divergence of Class B and C than obviously that collapsed during the last cycle. And when you look at -- when we look at it, what we are an IRR-based investor, we're not focused necessarily -- of course, we're focused on it, but we're looking at the total return of these assets, quality, total return location. And so cap rates can be a bit confusing at times. Operator: Next, we have Mike Mueller with JPMorgan. Michael Mueller: For GIC and La Caisse. Can you give some color on how you determine what developments will be done in those ventures versus on your balance sheet? Timothy Arndt: Mike, we go through an allocation policy that is long-standing at the company. Now as you can imagine, our 40 years as an asset manager. We've had overlapping vehicles with mandates that need to be managed, so we have an allocation policy in that regard that deals will cycle through. It could find any of those vehicles, including the balance sheet has been the ultimate developer of some of these assets, and it's dependent on a variety of conditions that are run with good governance I think that makes your lives difficult if you were left only that which is a way of saying you're going to be increasingly reliant on the PLD share of these development volumes. So that will cut through all that noise for you because ultimately, that's the thing that's going to matter economically for the company. Operator: Next, we have Brendan Lynch with Barclays. Brendan Lynch: It looks like turnover costs per square foot are coming down, I think now about 7.3% of lease value, but free rent has ticked up a bit. So how should we think about the evolution of concessions going forward? Timothy Arndt: Well, I'll start. Concessions are still a bit elevated right now. We've seen free rent, as you highlight, stepped up. I said earlier, so I'll say it again, some of that influenced by the greater amount of roll out of the west where those conditions are softer and concessions are a bit more elevated. We do expect concessions to normalize as occupancies build, which that's on the free rent metric would be more in the order of something like 3% of lease value versus a little bit of a bulge that you see at the moment. Operator: Next, we have John Kim with BMO Capital Markets. John Kim: On data centers, I wanted to see if there was an update on the timing of your data center vehicle. And also if you can just clarify the 5.6 gigawatt of capacity, is that on growth or leasable power? Dan Letter: Sure. So let me start with the capitalization fees, maybe hand it to Kim -- or Tim, for some color. But bottom line is we've had very constructive conversations with global investors over the last 2.5 quarters or so. And interest remains very strong. We feel like we're in a very good position with multiple options. And we're just taking the time to evaluate what makes the most sense for us right now. Our current model of building on the balance sheet and then selling these stabilized assets has worked really well the last couple of years, and we see it working quite well going forward. I'd like to actually step back at this point and realize what we've done over the last few years, and I already mentioned it at the front end of the call, but the pipeline we've built, the capabilities we've built and the progress we've made since we embarked on this officially call it Investor Day 2023 has been tremendous. So feel great about what we're putting in front of these investors and where we're going to take it from here. But Tim may have some additional color on the capitalization piece. Timothy Arndt: Look, I think you covered it well. Happy to take other questions. I think the second part of your question dealt with clarification on the megawatts that is utility load that we're reporting out, and there's going to be -- probably 2/3 of that will be critical, so you can apply math based on those numbers. Operator: Next, we have Todd Thomas with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Todd Thomas: I just wanted to go back to the discussion on market rent growth, and I appreciate some of the color and good to see the first increase in, I think, 2.5 years, as you said. Do you expect market rent growth to persist just given where conditions are at this point in the cycle? And then I know you touched on SoCal, but can you share a little bit more detail on that market and a bit of a real-time read on what you're seeing and how conditions are currently and how the market is performing relative to expectations so far this year? Christopher Caton: It's Chris. I'll start and Dan may add remarks as well. So first off, on market rent growth, one, underline the word stability. We did have a bit of growth in the first quarter is pretty incremental. And that is really a market-by-market exercise, with most markets enjoying stable to slightly rising. But with there being pockets of real strength like we discussed earlier on the call, as well as some pockets of softness like we also discussed. So I think what you should think about is our call is unchanged, but we're passing through an inflection. Rent growth is still a little bit uneven, and it's just a bit too early for broad-based and sustained growth. I'll offer a few details on Southern California. That is a market that is moving through the bottoming process. We're seeing the demand pick up. Vacancy is near a trough, but it's just a bit too early for rents to increase on a broad base. but there are pockets that are firming. Dan Letter: Yes. Let me just pile on a little bit here in Southern California. I feel like I've said this quite a bit over the last 1.5 years or so in various meetings. But I think it's really important to emphasize just how big of a market Southern California is and what are Os in these markets. We're focused on being close to the end consumer. There are 24 million consumers in Southern California. It's a $2 trillion economy down there and it's just getting more and more difficult to build down there. So the supply backdrop is really shaping up for that market quite well. And so we're -- we feel good about the projection we've made about Southern California kind of tailing the overall market by 2 to 3 quarters. That was the last question. So thank you all for joining the call. Just a big thank you to our colleagues around the world for another exceptional quarter. We look forward to seeing you all at upcoming conferences and speaking again at the next quarterly call. Thank you. Operator: Thank you. And with that, we conclude today's conference call. All parties may disconnect. Thank you.
Sophie Lang: Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Barry Callebaut's Half Year Results Presentation for 2025/ 2026. I'm Sophie Lang, Head of Investor Relations. And today's session will be hosted by our CEO, Hein Schumacher; and our CFO, Peter Vanneste. Our presentation today will start with Hein's initial reflections and observations then Peter will go into the half year results and the outlook. And finally, Hein will conclude with a preview of the Focus for Growth plan. Following the presentation, we'll have a Q&A session for analysts and investors. [Operator Instructions]. Before we start, take note of the disclaimer on Slide 2, and I'd also like to inform you that today's session is being recorded. And with that, I hand you over to our CEO, Hein Schumacher. Hein M. Schumacher: Thank you, Sophie, and good morning, everyone. It's my pleasure to be speaking with you as part of my first results presentation here at Barry Callebaut and I'm now approaching my first 100 days, and I wanted to start by sharing my initial observations and reflections before I hand it over to Peter to cover the results. So far, I've been in a listen and learn mode and spending a lot of time across the business to gather a broad range of perspectives from our people. And I've had the opportunity to visit a number of our factories and offices around the world and gain insights into our operations and the culture of the company. What has stood out most to me is the passion, the expertise and the resilience that defines this organization. I've also met with several of our key customers, which has sharpened my understanding of what truly matters for them and how we can support them on their growth journey. Back in February, we formed the Growth Accelerator coalition, which is a diverse group of around 30 deeply experienced colleagues, talents from around regions, functions and nationalities. And this working group from within is designed to advise, challenge and co-shape our path back to volume growth. And through a series of focus sessions, this group has developed a unified view of where we stand today, identified key bottlenecks that hold us back and is helping define a set of high-impact priority initiatives. And collecting these insights from across our organization is enabling me to shape a clear and decisive action plan that will sharpen our strategic direction and set our key priorities. Now I will come back to that later in more detail. But first, let me share some initial observations. Over the past years, the company has been navigating a very turbulent period marked by transformation, significant industry volatility as well as supply disruptions. The Barry Callebaut Next Level program was launched with all the right intentions. However, the sheer number of initiatives proved too ambitious for the organization to absorb at once and particularly against the backdrop of unprecedented industry disruption. And frankly, without sufficient course correction in priorities, this created a perfect storm. Now that said, several important steps were taken on the Next Level because the program did deliver savings of around CHF 150 million, and these enabled much-needed capability investments in core fundamentals such as digital, quality and supply processes. But at the same time, these savings were more than offset by the impact of volume declines, higher operating costs, particularly from the cocoa market and supply disruption as well as from a more competitive environment. And the combined effect was an organization that it become overstretched and quite internally focused. And with too many quality incidents, the business also began to lose market share. And as a result, we find ourselves in a position today with clear improvement areas that need to be addressed. I'm calling out 3 areas: First, our manufacturing network. We do have capacity constraints in key growth areas with site upgrades that are still work in progress. A lot has happened, but it's still work in progress. It has contributed to quality incidents with longer recovery times due to limited business continuity plans and we have made progress on the Next Level without a doubt, especially in strengthening quality foundations, but more work is to be done. And our service levels are currently below industry benchmarks. We need to improve. Second, our digital transformation. A good direction, but initiatives were decoupled from core business priorities and the scope was very broad. We moved very quickly before co-processes were sufficiently stabilized and before our data and operating systems had reached the required level of maturity. And third, our operating model and the organization. Historically, Barry Callebaut was highly decentralized and the intention of Next Level was to introduce a greater degree of centralization and standardization and that was the right direction. But in some areas, for example, in customer service, we went too far and probably too quick. In others, we ended up with a hybrid central regional model, and that has created an ambiguity in accountabilities. It added complexity to the organization and it limited regional empowerment, where essentially, the customer is where the market is, and where we need to drive local decisions. Because I believe that food is fundamentally a local business. And our region should define the what, whilst global functions should support the how with scale, expertise and obviously, consistency. And that makes the value of the corporation essentially bigger. Now importantly, while there is work to be done, as I said, we are building from a position of strength because Barry Callebaut has strong and solid foundations, and I'm confident that we can return to growth and reinvigorate ourselves as a reliable industry leader. Because we have a truly unique market position with leading relationships, strong customer relationships and a strong portfolio with benefits from our integrated end-to-end cocoa and chocolate model, very important for our group. And in turn, this gives us deep expertise across R&D, innovation, cocoa and sustainability and these are capabilities that are highly valued and appreciated by our customers around the world. And my conversations with CEOs of our largest customers have reinforced this view. And they see Barry Callebaut as an important partner and they want to grow with us. They expect us to step up and play a key role in unlocking and supporting their growth agendas. And let's not forget that we operate in a fantastic category with strong underlying fundamentals. And as a market leader, we are well positioned to capture significant long-term growth opportunities. And underpinning all of this is our people, as I said in the very beginning, people with deep commitment and passion for what we do. And that's critical to ensure that we can fully deliver on the fundamental opportunities ahead. Now bringing all of this together, clearly, we have strong foundations from our unique market position to the depth of our expertise, and that positions us to win in this industry. And at the same time, to fully deliver on the opportunity ahead, we must refocus behind a reduced set of priorities to stabilize key fundamentals as well as to step up execution. And in turn, if we do that well, it will unlock sustained profitable growth and it will reinvigorate Barry Callebaut as a reliable, innovative global leader. And that is the objective of our Focus for Growth action plan. And I will share a preview of the plan later. But before I go there, let me hand it over to Peter to walk you through the first half year results. Peter, here you go. Peter Vanneste: Thank you, Hein. Good morning, everyone. Let me walk you through the half year performance first, and I'll start with a short summary. Cocoa bean prices have decreased strongly in H1 and especially in the last few months, and this is surely positive for the recovery of the chocolate demand. On volumes, we saw a sequential quarterly improvement to minus 3.6% in the second quarter, supported by double-digit growth in Asia and continued momentum in Latin America. Recurring EBIT decreased by 4.2% and strong cocoa profitability was more than offset by the impact of lower volume, supply disruption and a highly competitive overcapacity environment. In Gourmet, margins were pressured with the context of the very rapid drop of bean prices, and I will come back to that a bit later in the presentation. Despite the decrease in EBIT, however, we grew recurring profit before tax and net profit, thanks to lower finance costs and income tax. And very importantly, despite the peak harvest and heavy cocoa buying season, we generated strong free cash flow and further deleveraged to 3.9x [ net ] debt over EBITDA. Let me get into some details now. Starting with the cocoa market. The cocoa bean prices have decreased very, very rapidly, falling by 53% in just 8 weeks in Jan and February and closing at GBP 2,057 at the end of February. And that's driven by good main crop arrivals in West Africa over the past few months, and favorable recent weather conditions that are supporting output for the mid crop. At the same level, the market is still seeing some demand softness. So global stocks have replenished to healthier levels. Overall, this means we expect a surplus this year for the second year in a row. Importantly, the structure of the cocoa futures markets has also improved significantly. We now have a carry structure meaning that the cost of buying spot cocoa today is cheaper than buying cocoa in the future. This means it is less costly for the industry to carry physical stocks and it's indicative for a more stable outlook. In the short term, given that this is demand-driven surplus, we expect bean prices to remain in the GBP 2,000 to GBP 3,000 range. That said, we continue to monitor the markets very closely as the demand recovers and thus we assess potential supplier risk linked to El Nino and potentially speculative volatility as we have seen in the past. Over the medium term, depending on supply and demand dynamics, we believe prices could move back into the GBP 3,000 to GBP 5,000 range. Lower cocoa bean prices are certainly positive for the future recovery of both the cocoa and the chocolate markets. We're seeing indications of this through our forward bookings. As you know, we contract several months in advance for our customers and in recent months, we've seen a greater willingness to book further ahead again. At the end of February, our futures booking portfolio was much, much higher than at the same time last year when cocoa bean prices were spiking. At the same time, our customers have priced through to their end consumer. As a result, consumer pricing and the rate of end consumer volume declines have started to stabilize. In the most recent quarter, Nielsen global chocolate/confectionery volumes decreased by 6.3% with plus 13.7% pricing. And importantly, we're now seeing our customers gradually shift their focus back to its category investments to stimulate growth. And I'll just quote a few examples. In North America, Ferrero launched their Go All In promotion from April 1 backed by a $100 million investment. It marks their first portfolio-wide campaign and largest marketing commitment in the company's history. Another example is Hershey is boosting media investments by double digit this year with the new quarter 1 media campaigns on Reese's and Hershey, the first launches of this nature. We're also seeing increased interest in innovation from our customers. In half year 1, we saw a significant increase in number of projects in Western Europe for ChoViva, our non-cocoa chocolate offering as well as a growing traction on Vitalcoa, our high flavanol solution, especially in AMEA. Beyond these benefits, the magnitude and the pace of the decline in the cocoa bean prices, as mentioned, just now more than 50% down in the last 8 weeks, helps, of course, the demand and the cash front but has also created some challenges on the short term as well and mainly on profitability. And there's 5 key impacts I just would like to highlight. First, in the past few months, we've seen very favorable margin environment for cocoa. In half year 1, this helped to offset some headwinds we saw in chocolate. Looking ahead, we expect this cocoa margin tailwind to normalize in the second half as market conditions have become less favorable. Second, as we just saw from the Nielsen data, demand has been down for some time. And given the high prices that have been put into the market in the past, this has resulted in some industry overcapacity, which is intensifying competition with more aggressive pricing and commercial actions. In this competitive environment, we've seen a temporary margin effect in Gourmet. The Gourmet business typically works with a 3 to 6 month price list where forecasted sales are covered and then a price list is determined. Given the unique speed now we've seen of the cocoa bean price decreases in half year 1, the result was a long position in a declining market, creating a high price list with not all players following the same approach. And this impacted our volume and profitability through the need for some short-term commercial investments. Also, next to that, there's a more technical effect related to the shift between EBIT and profit before tax due to lowering financing costs. The opposite, if you want, of what we've seen last year. This is a reversal of the finance cost pass-through, again, as we saw last year, and we now have lower finance costs as the bean prices come down. And it also means then a lower pass-through at the EBIT level. But it is -- importantly, it is neutral at the profit before tax level. Finally, there's also a BC-specific headwind in supply disruption. We had operational incidents in North America in the St. Hya factory, resulting in some volume losses and higher operating costs. Before we move to the half year 1 figures specifically, I'd like to spend also a moment to highlight potential implications from the Middle East situation. As many, many industries, the primary impact for us is on the supply chain side. It includes shipping disruptions, increased transit times resulting from port closures or limited container availability and of course, as we all know, there's a sharp increase in energy prices. In some markets, fuel rationing has been introduced combined with higher freight and insurance costs and all of that is adding complexity and costs across our supply chain. Next to the supply side, we've also seen some regional demand effects. Within AMEA, the Middle East and North Africa cluster represents about 10% of the volume there. This cluster has a specific high gourmet exposure and is experiencing therefore, disruption to imported premium products. Clearly, HoReCa food service segments are negatively impacted by the tourism levels in those areas as well as the closure of the schools, offices, rules on working from home and so on. Beyond directly in the Middle East and North Africa, we also see an indirect impact in India, where we have an important business where LNG imports are disrupted and constraining the energy availability for food manufacturers, commercial kitchens has been impacting their operations and, therefore, also ours. Overall, this obviously remains a highly dynamic and uncertain situation that we are monitoring, obviously, as per the latest developments every day. Now let me get into the numbers in a bit more detail, starting with volume. Overall, the group saw a sequential volume improvement in the second quarter to minus 3.6%, meaning we landed the first half with a decrease of 6.9%. Looking to the left of the chart by segment, Food Manufacturers continue to be impacted by negative market dynamics with our customers adapting behaviors in the context of high prices and lower demand. And there was the supply disruption in North America that impacted this segment for us. Gourmet, while more resilient, our competitiveness was temporarily pressured by the high price list in a sharply declining bean price environment, as I just explained. Also -- and also here, there was some impact of the St. Hya closure we saw in the first quarter. Global Cocoa declined as a result, mainly of a negative market demand, especially in AMEA and secondly, also due to our choice to prioritize higher profitability segments, which did have its impact on volumes in certain areas. This business, the cocoa business saw early signs of market improvement in the second quarter with a sequential volume improvement of minus 5.2%, so significantly better than in the first quarter. Now moving to the right-hand side of the chart, to global chocolate. Globally, we've seen chocolate volumes decline by 5.1%, which is ahead of the 6.5% decline of the market as reported by Nielsen. In Western Europe, we saw a 4.2% volume decline as demand continues to be impacted by market softness. Central and Eastern Europe declined for us by 3.6%. And way better than the market as our local accounts saw solid growth, especially in Turkey. North America decreased by 12.6% impacted by a strongly declining market as well, but as well as the network supply disruption we've seen from the temporary closure in St. Hya in the first quarter. Importantly, though, North America saw recent months improvements as the business is rebuilding inventories and meeting increasing customer orders. Latin America grew by 1.5%, well ahead of the market, driven by a strong momentum in Gourmet that we've seen multiple quarters in a row now. Finally, volumes in AMEA grew by a strong 8.5% and reached double-digit growth in the second quarter, driven by strong market share gains in China, momentum with key customers in India and additional business that we secured in Australia. Moving to EBIT now. Recurring EBIT decreased in local currencies by 4.2% to CHF 316 million (sic) [ CHF 310.9 million ]. The EBIT bridge on the page shows the respective moving parts. Cocoa, first of all, the green block on the chart saw strong profitability in half year 1, given a more favorable market environment -- margin environment, sorry, and market volatility where we're able to capture the volatility and increases of the prices and the decrease of the prices that we have seen. In half year 1, this has helped to offset some of the other headwinds that we're facing in chocolate. The impact of the half year 1 volume decrease was meaningful. This is clear when we look at our EBIT per tonne as well, which increased by 3%, whereas our EBIT in absolute declined by 4%. So the impact of volume was meaningful in the first half, and this is something that we'll see turning around in the second half. Next, there was an impact of the intense competitive environment and particularly within Gourmet. As I explained earlier, our high Gourmet price list and long position in the context of this very rapid decline of bean prices required temporary commercial investments. In addition, supply disruption resulted in higher operating costs to maintain service and deliver products to our customers. Finally, we also saw the shift between EBIT and profit before tax that I explained as a result of a lower financing cost year-on-year and therefore, a lower pass-through on the EBIT level. And this effect will get bigger in the second half of the year. While our recurring EBIT decreased, it's important to note, we were able to grow the absolute profit before tax and our net profit. And to be more precise. As you can see on the left-hand side of this chart, our recurring EBIT in local currencies was CHF 14 million lower than last year. This is the minus 4%. In the middle, our profit before tax increased by CHF 2 million or plus 1.3% as a result of a CHF 16 million decrease in financing costs in local currencies driven by our actions to reduce debt and, of course, in the lower bean price environment. To the right, our net profit increased even further by CHF 42 million or by 66%, given significantly lower income tax expense compared to what we saw last year. Recurring income tax expense decreased to CHF 29.6 million versus the CHF 69.4 million we saw in half year 1 last year. This corresponds to an effective tax rate of 21.4%, which mainly resulted from a more favorable mix of profit before taxes and much lower nontax effective losses in some of the countries. Free cash. Free cash flow delivered strongly in the half year at CHF 802 million across the 6 months despite the peak buying season that we're having always this time of year. Now when we look, as always, at the moving parts behind this cash generation, we saw -- and that's the dark black bar, we saw CHF 1.5 billion positive impact from the cocoa bean price this half year. Bean prices decreased significantly in half year 1, especially in the second quarter, as I mentioned. And this has benefited us during the peak buying period, particularly in non-West African origins, which do not have the same forward contracting model as Ivory Coast and Ghana have. There was a, next to that, a CHF 472 million negative impact on operational free cash flow, as you can see in the green bar. This has all got to do with the peak buying season. Half year 1 is always operationally like that with a negative cash out for the bean buying given the timing of the cocoa harvest. This was offset, however, partly by continued operational benefits from actions on the cash cycle reduction that we explained largely already in the previous communications. We continue to do so with our efforts to diversify our origin mix, reduce forward contracting and so on. As a result, actually, our inventory was now this time of year in February, 10% lower than February last year. So that also helped to generate the cash. up to this level. And finally, there was a CHF 183 million CapEx investments, as you can see in the yellow bar in the chart. Leverage. Leverage came down to -- strongly to 3.9x, and that's significantly below the 6.5x we saw in February last year and also well below the 4.5x we saw last August despite, again, the seasonality we always have in half year 1, with an important net debt reduction of CHF 2.5 billion, enabled by the strong cash flow that I've been talking about before. So leverage landed at 3.9x. But in fact, if you would exclude cocoa bean inventories from the net debt, and I'm talking only cocoa bean inventories, so not even correcting for cocoa products or chocolate stocks, our adjusted leverage RMI would be 2.7x. This progress mostly came from a lower inventory value given significantly lower bean prices, which is about 1.3x leverage in this decrease. But also through the actions to reduce our inventory volume, as I talked about, which made up about 0.6x in this reduction of leverage. In terms of gross debt reduction, we repaid EUR 263 million term loan in September '25, so a few months ago and EUR 191 million in February on the Schuldschein. We've also reduced significantly our commercial paper and bilateral facilities over this time. Obviously, all of this has been an important contributor to the lower net year-on-year finance costs that we've seen in the first half already. And we will certainly continue to focus strongly on the deleverage in half year 2. It remains a key priority. We want to end much lower than where we are even today. So with the further actions that we're defining on the cash cycle will bear further fruit going forward. This could be and this will be partly offset to some degree because of the safety stocks that we will be watching and potentially reinforcing a bit in a few key segments. Again, back to the support we need to have on the service levels following some disruptions that we have seen over the last months. So before I conclude the half year 1 section and staying on the financing. Earlier this week, we signed a EUR 2 billion sustainability-linked borrowing base facility. The borrowing base is linked to our underlying inventory asset base and represents an important step in the diversification of our funding sources. The facility strengthens our funding flexibility, particularly in periods of prolonged higher or lower bean price environments. It increases our agility and the agility of our capital structure and our ability to actively manage financing costs more in sync with cocoa price moves. Just to share a few additional details. The facility comprises of a EUR 1.6 billion of committed financing, complemented by an uncommitted tranche of EUR 400 million which is providing additional liquidity flexibility. So moving now to the outlook of the fiscal year. We've updated our guidance, reflecting our focus on volume and deleverage while taking short-term action to protect our market share and drive growth. We have, first, raised our expectations on volume. We now expect a decrease for the group between minus 1% to minus 3%. And this implies a return to positive growth overall in the second half. We've also raised our guidance on leverage. We now expect net debt over EBITDA below 3x using a working mean price assumption of GBP 3,000, so with the continued tight focus on this and further progress despite our updated profit assumptions. At the same time, we have lowered our outlook on EBIT. We now expect a mid-teens decrease on a recurring basis in local currencies. And this reflects short-term actions to protect market share and prioritize growth in the context of the rapidly declined cocoa bean prices. Important to note that a significant reduction in financing costs in half year 2 is an important factor in the reduced EBIT guidance. We expect to recover more than half of the absolute decrease in EBIT at the profit before tax level. Clearly, this outlook is subject to potential impact from the ongoing disruption in the Middle East that I commented on a little bit earlier. Now before I hand back to Hein, I want to take a moment to explain the half year 2 moving parts on EBIT. Our return to positive volume growth will be a clear tailwind for half year 2, of course. However, this will be offset by a number of factors. One is short-term actions in global chocolate. We are prioritizing restoring Gourmet share following this unique and temporary long position impact that I talked about. We're also taking some temporary customer-centric interventions to restore service levels, and Hein will talk about it a bit more later, but action is needed to stabilize supply after a number of incidents that we've seen. Customer centricity is our #1 focus going forward, and we're taking action to reclassify lines, increase spend on staffing, maintenance and quality. Second, as already discussed, cocoa profitability is expected to now normalize in half year 2 following an exceptional half year 1. Third, we are taking further actions to reduce finance costs. This means significantly lower year-on-year pass-through in finance cost at the EBIT level, while neutral on profit before tax. And finally, we have the uncertain and volatile situation in Middle East, which is bringing additional cost and supply chain disruption depending on how it will evolve further. Finally, the uncertain and volatile situation in the Middle East brings additional costs and supply chain disruption. And I will now hand over to Hein to share more on our Focus for Growth. Hein M. Schumacher: Thank you, Peter. Now let's talk about Focus for Growth. And this has been shaped, as I said before, by the insights and learnings from our growth accelerator coalition that I mentioned earlier. And at this stage, me being in the company now for 2 months plus, the plan is directional as we continue to refine and deepen our assessment of the actions as well as the opportunities ahead of us. And I'm looking forward to sharing the full detailed update with all of you in early June. And in the meantime, I wanted to be transparent and therefore, share the direction that we are heading in. Now before we go into details, let me start with why focus is so critical for Barry Callebaut. Because what really struck me when I started engaging with the team on our business portfolio is actually how concentrated we are. As you can see here on the chart, a few examples. So if we look at our top 7, top 7 markets represent 56% of our total volume. And of course, if you would extend that to 10 markets, the concentration increases even further. Similarly, with customers, our top 7 global customers are approximately 1/3 of our volume. In our Gourmet branded business, our top 7 brands or top 7 propositions generate 85% of our volume. And on the sourcing side, 90% of our cocoa is sourced from our 7 origin countries. And finally, although we operate around 30 specialty categories around the world, the top 7 represent approximately 90% of the growth opportunities that we see today. So as we focus on stabilizing the fundamentals, which we talked about and focusing our resources behind reduced priorities, getting these top 7 really right already moves the needle meaningfully. And this is why focus sits at the heart of our growth agenda for the future. Now turning to our Focus for Growth action plan. We do see that compelling need to increase focus across 3 areas. First one is commercially. So concentrating on a defined set of distinct growth opportunities and prioritizing key markets and segments where we see the greatest potential. Second, operationally by restoring fundamentals. I talked about that, and particularly in the areas that matter most for our customers in terms of reliability, quality and service. Customer centricity is absolutely vital. Third is organizationally by prioritizing a reduced number of the most impactful initiatives and restoring that customer-centric winning culture and by driving focus, restoring fundamentals and putting the customer firmly at the center of what we do, our objective is to reinvigorate the company and return to sustained profitable growth, and market share gains and, therefore, unlock strong financial performance going forward. Now let me share some details on each. I'm starting with commercial focus. And we are defining a clear and distinct set of growth opportunities where we will intentionally concentrate our resources and our attention. And this starts with markets. And as we discussed earlier, our top markets truly move the needle, not only in terms of volume but also in profitability. Let me start with the U.S., our largest market, representing approximately 17% of our revenue and ensuring the right level of focus and execution in such markets is critical to deliver growth. But also other markets stand out with clear growth potential, for example, Brazil, where we have a meaningful presence, Indonesia, India, Peter talked about that, and China, where we're experiencing strong growth right now. And it is therefore clear that our resources need to over proportionately support these priority markets, a distinct set. And importantly, this focus must be actionable, value-added defining a set of focus markets within AMEA rather than spreading our attention across that vast region thinly. The same logic applies with Gourmet & Specialties, where we need to concentrate on the right segments and opportunities, and I will come back to that in some detail in the next chart. In cocoa, in itself, we see clear opportunities to unlock growth by increasing our focus on high value-added powders, whilst ensuring that we have the right growth capacity, of course, in place. So across all of these areas, a key enabler will be strong innovation platforms. Not many, but a few strong platforms that will allow us to lead in the market and that we can leverage across the portfolio to drive growth, greater level of differentiation versus our competitors and of course, to support our customers around the world. Now let me talk about Gourmet, such an important segment for our profitable growth, and we are reintroducing here a clear brand hierarchy and customer propositions. Callebaut, Masters of Taste, that will continue to be our group commercial identity. And then we have a clear brand tiering after that to serve the different customer needs with a greater impact. And as you can see here on the top of the pyramid, we anchor the portfolio around our super premium global brands, led by the Callebaut Signature Collection and Cacao Barry. Now Callebaut brings over a century of Belgian craftsmanship and unrivaled bean to bar expertise and Cacao Barry brings 2 centuries of Cocoa Origins mastery and French pastry heritage, important brands on top of the pyramid at a higher price level, strong quality focus. Now beneath that, our core Gourmet portfolio is firmly positioned in that premium segment with the Callebaut core section. And here, the focus is on delivering consistent quality, reliability and strong performance for professional customers in their day-to-day operations. Complementing these, we continue to develop strong regional propositions. Typically, one per region, such as Sicao, Chocovic or Van Houten in Asia, for example, ensuring that local relevance. And across all these tiers, our brands are supported by end-to-end services from the chocolate academies that we have around the world to innovation and technical expertise. These help our customers to succeed. And the objective is simple and clear, a more focused Gourmet portfolio with clearly differentiated propositions and price tiers that enable to serve our customers better, and it will allow us to allocate resources more effectively and drive the profitable growth in this important segment. Now let's turn to specialties. Our plan here is to be a bit more selective, focused on a defined number of margin-accretive specialty categories that we believe we can integrate in the company, and the core of the company and by doing that, scale them first regionally and then globally. And while the final list is currently being defined, we already see clear and compelling opportunities in a number of areas, such as filled and baked inclusions, which you find in products like ice cream, where we have a very strong presence in that segment. But also both chocolate decorations, including toppings for bakery applications and fillings and coatings, for example, solutions with reduced sugar functionality. And once this prioritization is finalized, the intent is to bring these selected specialties much closer to the core on the regional responsibility including, therefore, a tighter system integration. At this moment, they're not that fully integrated in our operating system. And that means we will invest behind them to ensure there is sufficient growth capacity, clear ownership, P&L ownership within the region and stronger category management. And we believe that this more focused approach will allow us to scale what really works. It will simplify the specialty portfolio, and it will concentrate resources where we see the strongest combination of growth, margin expansion and, of course, customer relevance. Now moving to operational focus, where the clear goal is to restore some of the fundamentals. And Peter talked about the disruptions. Our #1 priority is to restore service levels and on-time in full performance that we are now measuring consistently every day, every week, every month. I'm absolutely determined to get us there and to improve on that particular KPI. And as I mentioned earlier, a combination of transformation complexity, industry disruption that we've had and many operational incidents, this has taken our focus a bit away from the basics. And as a result, service levels have been below industry standards. Now that's something that I'm keen to turn around for the company. We have to get this right. Now beyond service, we also need to ensure that our network, our factory network is fit for purpose, both for the portfolio that we operate today, but also where our customers will go tomorrow. And at the factory level, we see currently mismatches between line utilization, so specific line utilization and the overall capacity available in our network. So in the short term, that means we will make targeted and tactical adjustments to unlock available capacity. On the midterm and the long term, we will invest selectively behind those growth capacities that I talked about -- we talked about the focus areas, for example, ensuring that we deploy there for our capital towards the right opportunities. And finally, restoring the fundamentals also means strengthening the core processes and enablers of the organization, very much the intention of Next Level, and we will build on that. We do need better data visibility, more effective end-to-end decision-making on a number of processes. And therefore, the priority for us is to focus on the core process as the company first, get them really right, such as the overall demand and supply planning processes, customer service processes and, of course, the quality and the usability of our data. We made strong progress, but now we need to finish it behind those few big priorities. Going into more detail, there are a few areas where we need to focus operationally. So North America, as I said already, this region contains our largest market in the U.S., and we need to get it right. And as Peter has described, we've seen broad supply disruption across the network, and that resulted in longer lead times for our customers and capacity constraints in several high-demand product categories. Network investments under Next Level were there, but some of them were postponed given the macro backdrop. Now there's an immediate need to stabilize the network and rapidly improve service levels, focusing over the coming months on increasing staffing and adapting shift patterns at relevant sites as well as targeted initiatives to stabilize critical facilities, particularly across maintenance, quality, infrastructure and planning processes. In parallel, we are reclassifying and redeploying existing product lines across the network to better utilize the available overall capacity. We are developing a midterm plan to future-proof the network in order to sustainably support future growth. On emerging markets, here, our focus will be on a select number of key growth markets, large markets, though, but where we have a meaningful presence already and where we intend to invest to support evolving customer needs. Think of countries like Indonesia and Brazil. On this, we will update you in much more detail in June. Service and OTIF, on time in full, we are taking targeted actions not only in North America but also in Europe to immediately improve reliability and to step up our safety stocks in selected categories. Peter talked about that. This will stabilize our key business processes and in turn, it will improve customer service in the months to come. And then finally, core processes. I talked about digital efforts before. We need to focus our digital efforts and investments behind those core processes, such as planning as well as customer service, driving better data visibility and transparency, and this will, therefore, strengthen these processes and, therefore, increase service levels for our customers. Now turning finally to organizational focus. Our objective is to reestablish that winning culture with customers at the heart of everything that we do, while refocusing the organization, as I said, on a set of impactful initiatives that truly matter. And a key priority here is to increase the empowerment and accountability of our commercial regions because these regions are the closest to our customers and our markets, and they should clearly drive what needs to be done to win locally. And of course, supported by global functions. They provide the how. They provide the scale, the expertise and the consistency behind those core processes that I talked about. By doing that, we need to be, therefore, more disciplined on prioritization because the organization, as I said, has been overloaded by a significant number of initiatives during a time of also intense industry disruption. And that, in itself, dilutes the focus and the execution capacity. So by intentionally reducing the number of priorities on the table, we will free up time, energy and resources. And this will allow us to focus on what truly matters. That's what we're going to do in the next couple of months. Before closing, let me briefly highlight some of the initial steps that we have already taken as we start to put the Focus for Growth strategy into action. We've reduced the executive leadership team. I had a team of 20, we've reduced it to 12 members. This creates a smaller, more agile and more importantly, a more commercially focused leadership team in the company, which will enhance the speed of decision-making that we need. We also removed the global transformation office related to Next Level, and we significantly reduced our consultancy spend for the months to come. And this reflects a shift away from a separate transformation office towards a more integrated business ownership and execution. And as such, we have fully integrated the remaining Next Level initiatives into our global functions as well as into our regions. And that has stopped a stand-alone program tracking savings, for example, and therefore, we're now much more focused on the bottom line delivery and therefore, the net impact of these changes. We've also strengthened our global customer account alignment, and the global 7 accounts that I've talked about before are now reporting directly to me. And this is designed to reinforce regional execution actually, but also to accelerate the deployment of global innovation where it matters most for our customers. Now these are early but important steps. Obviously, there's more to come, but the momentum in the company has started. So that concludes my preview of Focus for Growth and we're not reinventing our strategy, as you've seen. What is different is the level of focus, the level of energy and depth supported by clear choices and strong resource prioritization. So to summarize, our priorities are clear: drive focus and discipline and put the customer back at the center of everything that we do. And I'm confident that our unparalleled industry leadership that we have and our truly unique business model will provide that strong foundation to sharpen that customer focus and return to profitable growth. I'm looking forward to coming back to you in early June with a more detailed plan and to share our financial ambitions in parallel. And in the meantime, this concludes today's results presentation, and we are delighted to now take your questions. And with that, I will hand over to the operator to open the Q&A. Operator: [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Alex Sloane from Barclays. Alexander Sloane: I'll have 2, please. I guess, overall, you previously guided to double-digit PBT growth in fiscal '26 based on today's guidance. Is it fair to assume you're now expecting PBT in constant FX to decline at sort of mid-single-digit rate for this year? And I guess if that's the case, within that potential 15%-plus downgrade, how much do you see as '26 specific or transitional versus perhaps more structural and put another way, how much of that do you think investors should reasonably expect to sort of bounce back in fiscal '27 would be the first one. And I guess the second one, somewhat related, but in terms of the commercial investments that you've talked about to restore competitiveness in Gourmet, can I just say, does this purely relate to price gaps or -- in Gourmet? Are you also potentially suffering from some of the service level issues highlighted at the beginning of the presentation? Hein M. Schumacher: Thank you, Alex. For the first question on the -- on PBT and this year's guidance, I'll let Peter answer. I'll come back to some of the points on structural as well as take your second question on Gourmet. So Peter, first on PBT. Peter Vanneste: Yes. So Alex, thanks for the question. We will have a significant reduction of finance costs over the year, up to CHF 60 million, so CHF 50 million to CHF 60 million versus last year, which means that a very significant part of the gap that we see on EBIT will be offset towards the PBT level. So profit before tax will be down for the fiscal year, but to a lesser extent than EBIT because of that recovery on the finance cost. Hein M. Schumacher: And Alex, I think a few remarks on the structural nature of the guidance for this year. Look, there are a few things that I would call pretty temporary. These are, for example, the gourmet positions that you talked about. The other one is supply disruptions that we have seen as well as the volume declines that we've seen in the first half. I expect those to -- over time, of course, to come back. Some of that will go faster than others. But more structurally, and Peter talked about that, our finance cost with a lower bean price, overall, the finance cost are not as high as in the EBIT definition, but they will come back and they will be neutralized on a PBT and on a net profit level. So some aspects are structural and some are temporary, but I wouldn't call it overall a rebasing of the company. I think your second question on Gourmet. Yes. So we had long positions out there and -- in Gourmet, which is partially a price listed business. We are seeking to retain market share. Obviously, we're going to drive volume. I think that's super important for us. We have, of course, fixed cost, but also we want to retain our customers after having had some years of disruption. So we're very keen to put the customer right -- front and center for everything that we do. So that's something that we're investing in. But if you look at Gourmet, yes, there have been disruptions also for Gourmet. Some of that in the North American part, but some of that in Europe, obviously, from somewhat longer time ago, but we're still sort of rebuilding capacity, and we're still rebuilding customer service. So this is something that we're now going to do on an accelerated pace. All the key factories are under hypercare. We've added some resources to make sure that we can deliver. We're also pushing some tactical investments through the sites because the customers have evolved their portfolio needs. We were a bit behind. We're stepping that -- we're really stepping that up and going fast after that. And therefore, I'm quite confident that in the second half of the year, overall, as a company, we are going to return to growth, and that will then sequentially improve the volume picture by quarter including Gourmet, which of course, is an important profit segment for us. Next question, please. Operator: Our next question comes from Jörn Iffert from UBS. Joern Iffert: The first one would be, please, on the reinvestment needs to restore customer service levels. For how long do you think it will last that this is more pronounced? And do you think despite these reinvestments, there could be operating leverage benefits for EBIT in fiscal year '27? So just to get a feeling for the time line here? And the second question, please, a technical one. Into the core segment, I assume it is, in particular, the spread, not the combined ratio, which was beneficial in the first half, I mean, what do you expect as a more normalized profitability on the current cocoa bean versus butter and powder spread going forward from here? Hein M. Schumacher: Thanks, Jörn. I'll take the first question. Peter, you can take -- if you would take the second one, that will be good. On the -- yes, on the investments, look, as I said, there's a few different types of investment here. And so the first one as I said, it's around evolved customer needs of what they need in their portfolio. And I think whilst we have an overall capacity that is sort of sufficient given, of course, the volume reductions that we have and the existing capacity that we had, on a line basis, the capacity wasn't always keeping pace with the changes of what customers really wanted. And therefore, we're doing a number of tactical investments predominantly in North America to keep pace and to satisfy the evolving customer needs. Some of that is in compound production. Some of that is in inclusion, for example, we need to step it up there. And so that's part number one. And that's partially CapEx. But of course, with all -- with quite a number of changes that we're doing and these are happening literally to date, that was in North America in the last couple of days and witnessing firsthand of what we're doing to step up that customer service and change portfolio. So that's number one. And that, of course, comes with some extra cost. The second one, given the disruptions that we had, we absolutely want to make sure that food quality and food safety is paramount. So yes, we are investing a bit extra also in manual operations to secure that. We've had incidents over the last couple of years. We simply cannot repeat that. The reputation of the company is essentially what safeguards the value of the company. So I'm very, very keen to focus on that as well. And then thirdly, as I talked about, investments when it comes to the long positions that we -- and we already mentioned that a few times, the long positions that we've had on cocoa and the impact on price listed business. So we're making here the right trade-offs, but we want to stick with our customers and we prioritize volume and we prioritize market share now and that's the third area of investment that we're making. Yes, I mean those are the main ones. But clearly, again, customer centricity and stepping up our efforts to evolve our capacity to that -- to the exact needs of the customer, that for me is really a priority now. And that's pretty short term. But I think in the midterm, that means that we will -- we need to continue to evolve our network, our supply chain through changing needs. And I think we can do that. And obviously, more to come on that in June. Peter? Peter Vanneste: Thanks for your question on cocoa. We've seen a strong EBIT growth on cocoa in the half year 1 year-on-year in local currencies. And very much linked to the fact that we're able to profit in cocoa and benefit from a more favorable margin environment and also the market volatility considering the speed of the market movements we've seen some time ago already with higher butter, higher powder prices, and we were able to capture that. We expect this to normalize in half year 2 going forward because the butter ratios have continued to drop in line with the terminal market evolution. Butter is now below powder and trading at a discount actually to CBE, which means that some of those benefits that we've seen linked to that volatility and the whole market that we captured in half year 1 and to some extent, a bit as well in half year 2 last year is at least, for the short term, not coming back. And then, of course, we'll see how the market evolves further to be more specific about that. Operator: Our next question comes from Ed Hockin from JPMorgan. Edward Hockin: Thank you, Hein, for your preview on your Focus for Growth strategy that I look forward to learning more in June. But on the Focus for Growth strategy, what I wanted to clarify a little bit following on from the last question, is on some of these initiatives you've outlined on capacity investments on focus and scaling of innovations, whether these are a refocus of existing resource or whether these are incremental investments? And within that, how we're thinking about the cash flow? Should we be, therefore, presuming that CapEx is higher for longer? And of your higher safety stocks in H2 that you mentioned, should we also expect that this is something longer lasting. So will you be holding inventory levels as a norm going forward? Or is this specifically an H2 comment? And then my second question, please, is on your volumes outlook for H2 and the return to volume growth. The industry, as you noted, is currently tracking minus 6.5% volumes. So to return to volume growth in the second half of the year, can you try and help me to bridge that? Is it that the industry volumes, you should expect some improvement in the second half of the year? And how significant contribution should the actions you're taking in gourmet have? Is it some reversal of shrink inflations or some reversal of the temporary in-sourcing that you've seen in previous years. Just if you could help me bridge that gap between the current industry volumes and improved picture for your volumes in the second half? Hein M. Schumacher: Thank you, Ed. And let me take first go at it, and Peter, please add where you see fit. So I mean, first of all, this is not about incremental resources. I talked very much in focus for growth around galvanizing and rallying our people, and that is people's component, but also indeed capital expenditure as well as cost behind less initiatives. We're choosing essentially 6 to 8 initiatives in the company right now to focus our resources on. We've been looking at many, many process improvements as a company over the last couple of years, ranging from HR processes to supply chain processes to essentially covering absolutely everything. What I'm really keen now is to focus our resources behind those processes that touch the customer first, and that is planning, so demand planning, supply planning, and making sure that we link up with our customer seamlessly and that we optimize our planning processes. So that means also digital efforts behind that. So that's the number one. Number two, customer service. Over the last year, customer service has been pretty much standardized and, in some cases, has been moved from a decentralized model to a more centralized global shared services model for customer service. That was a decision taken. It didn't always go well. So we absolutely have to nail it now and be there for the customer and make sure that, that customer service process runs extraordinarily well. So this is not about incrementalism. No, it's about everything that we were doing under the Next Level program, it's to choose those things that are meaningful and impactful and putting our people behind those. So that's very much the mantra. Not an extra. We're not going to expand on that. When it comes to capital expenditure, also for this year, we're not increasing the guidance. We have redirected some of the capital expenditure spend through the tactical investments that I talked about. And on the medium term, whether that's going to lead to a higher level, I'm going to come back to in June. However, we are very, very committed to deleveraging the company, as Peter has talked about. So that will remain an important priority. We will live within our means, but at the same time, I want to make sure that we spend the CapEx behind tangible, thought through, thorough growth initiatives, in a select number of markets, in our most meaningful segments. Gourmet, I talked to a few specialty categories, for example, and then, of course, in customer processes related to our Food Manufacturing segment. So more focused, clear and not incremental. So that, I think, hopefully answers your first question. When it comes to the volume picture in the second half, a few comments. Obviously, with lower bean prices, what we're seeing is that customers ordering for longer, that's clear, and that's helping the volume picture for us. We also see that customers, and we said that in the presentation, customers themselves are going for growth. And we've seen a number of initiatives from Hershey's, for example. We've seen initiatives from Nestle. And I think that's really important. We are seeing an enhanced growth picture in some of our key markets. In ice cream, for example, in North America, we're seeing overall an increased demand picture. And again, I think the lower bean prices helped. At the same time, and I think this is very important for us, when I talk about our efforts to restore growth, we believe that, in the very recent months, we are growing a bit ahead of the market with a reinvigorated focus on growth. And if we keep the pace, we make those necessary investments, we restore our processes and our credibility and stability, I'm actually very convinced that we will continue to do that in the very near future. So that's going to help us. So with less disruptions, we should see some growth. There's one important caveat, and that's, of course, the situation in the Middle East. At this moment, I mean, that's the latest one this morning. We believe that in the next week or so, business activity in the Middle East will resume somewhat, but obviously, it's very, very volatile. So that's something that we need to manage. So that's more on a high-level basis. I don't know, Peter, if you want to make some further comment on what we have been doing? Peter Vanneste: I'm risking to repeat a lot of what you said. So no. Hein M. Schumacher: Okay. Operator: Our next question comes from Jon Cox from Kepler Cheuvreux. Jon Cox: I have 2 questions really. One, just on what's happened in the last couple of years and what you're doing now to sort of maybe unwind some of that, maybe it went too far. I think under the first program, you laid off about 20% of your workforce and did a couple of factory closures and that sort of stuff. Just wondering, should we assume that maybe you're going to unwind the staff by about 10%, so maybe going back a little bit, or halfway from what you've done? As an add on that, do you think there's anything more needs to be done in terms of the factory network? Or is it more, as you mentioned, it's all about quality issues and maybe some lines are not working as well as you want to? So that's the first question. The second question, more on the top line outlook. I'm quite surprised that we're not really seeing volumes recover given the fact that cocoa prices have declined. I know there's a lag and so on and so on. But in terms of -- I'd imagine the whole industry is short chocolate in various places. Are you worried that maybe structurally, the chocolate market has changed in the last few years, maybe with GLP-1s and we see various data points suggesting that maybe chocolate demand volume growth won't come back to that on average 1% or 2% we've seen historically, maybe it's going to be closer to flat going forward. Any thoughts on that sort of long-term chocolate market outlook? Hein M. Schumacher: Thanks, Jon. I mean, first of all, on the Next Level program, as I said, in the plan on the Focus for Growth plan, look, I think that the Next Level program, again, the intentions to standardize more in the company, to reduce our cost by progressing our network into fewer, bigger sites into doing more with digital, intentionally definitely the right program. But what I'm saying is, therefore, we will build on that. And I have no intention to unwind necessarily what was going on. But I feel that efforts in the company were quite diluted. We have lost a lot of people. We have had quite some incidents and disruptions, and we have let customers down and customer service. So hey, I'm just very keen now to restore that confidence, go back behind a number of core priorities. So that means that we're not going to unwind, but we're going to phase and pace it. We'll go deeper, we're going to finish a number of initiatives, and we're going to do it well, but always with the customer in mind. So yes, we will continue to evolve our network, and that may end up in less factories. But before you close a factory, you need to make absolutely sure that the volumes that you provide to a customer from that factory are then, of course, transferred to another place, and you can help the customer to succeed. So I'm very keen to progress, but again, in a thoughtful manner. There's no point in adding necessarily resources. As I said, we are making some selective investments now in the supply chain, particularly in North America as well as in quality assurance. But overall, I do not foresee that we're sort of adding cost on a structural basis. That is definitely not the intention. And I don't want to talk about unwinding. I want to talk about focus, and I want to talk about fewer, bigger and better. with a strong focus on operations discipline and customer centricity. I think when you talk about volumes, actually, we are pointing towards a volume recovery in the second half. So of course, progressively, quarter 2 was a little bit better than quarter 1, in terms of volume, still negative. But going forward, as you sort of follow the algorithm, we're guiding to minus 1% to minus 3%. And that means mathematically that we're going to have to see a positive territory in half 2. Now where does that come from? And I talked about that lower bean prices? Yes, from our end, a better competitive position, strong focus and of course, with the caveat that I already talked about in the Middle East. But overall, we are actually seeing good signs of restored volumes. So in that sense, certainly on the midterm, we're looking more positively. On GLP-1, I think yes, I mean, several of our customers have also talked about that. And I just wanted to highlight that quality chocolate, the more premium style chocolate, we believe that's actually benefiting in some cases. We're seeing that also in interest for our Gourmet products. So I think, yes, look, there will be some impact, but at this point, it will not be significant for the company. Peter Vanneste: And maybe just to add, there's some reassurance, of course, from the past on the market rebounding. I mean the market pricing has been significant, of course, this time, but also a few years ago on the back of COVID, there was a 20% pricing up in the market, and you could see the chocolate category bounce up well after that. And maybe last, as you said yourself, I mean, there is this lag, right? We had ourselves for the first time now a quarter in Q2 where our pricing was negative year-on-year. So we had our peak pricing, plus 70% a year ago. We had still plus 25% pricing from us to our customers in quarter 1. Quarter 2 was the first quarter where it started to come down. So there is this lag that the market needs to cycle through before it starts hitting the consumer. Hein M. Schumacher: I think, Peter, there's also -- and I think that on your question or the question before, I want to come back on one point, which are inventory levels. We've obviously seen inventories coming down, and that's partially bean price, but also operationally, our inventories are showing a healthy development. What I do believe towards year-end, again, tactically and particularly on what I call the runners in our portfolio, Gourmet products that are pretty standard, we are increasing the inventory levels somewhat to make sure that we have a very positive start into the new year. I believe by the end of last year, the inventory levels were very, very low, and it hampered us a bit in satisfying customer needs. And again, with the positive signs that we are seeing in the market, we believe there is room, again, tactically and in a few areas to increase the safety stocks a bit to safeguard service. Again, a major priority for us going forward. Operator: Our next question comes from David Roux from Morgan Stanley. David Roux: I just want to come back to Alex's question on the guidance. Can you perhaps quantify how much of the cut in the PBT guidance was attributed to the investments in Gourmet, Middle East conflict and then other factors? And then my second question is on Global Chocolate. On the Food Manufacturer client cohort specifically, do you see any need or any risk here that you need to invest in pricing here? I appreciate there's a mechanical cost-plus model with this cohort of customer. But I mean, how robust are these agreements? And then just my follow-up question on Global Chocolate is, where do you see manufacturer inventory levels at the moment? Hein M. Schumacher: Peter, you take the first. I'll come back on the Food Manufacturing. Peter Vanneste: Yes. So David, the first question on the moving parts on EBIT and then PBT overall versus the guidance that we now put into the market. Overall, as we said, still for the full year, there's a positive on cocoa considering the high and the strong benefit that we took on volatility and the increases of the market in the past, normalizing half year 2, as I mentioned. Now if we look at then where the delta comes from in terms of the negative impact, you could basically argue that about 70% or 2/3 is triggered by this very rapidly declining bean price, which had an impact on, first of all, our financing costs, that pass-through had reversed basically on the EBIT line. Secondly, the impact that we've seen on Gourmet, where our long position and high price list forced us to do some commercial investments to secure the volumes that we have. So 2/3 is really coming from that rapid decline of the bean price. The remaining part, basically, there's 2 components. One is volume that over the year will still be slightly negative. And secondly, some of the increased costs that we are taking to manage through the supply disruption, making sure that we can deliver our customers despite some of those disruptions that we've seen. So this is basically the different blocks that you should be considering within our guidance. Hein M. Schumacher: When it comes to the Food Manufacturing segment, you're right. I mean, most of our contracts, they follow the price of cocoa. So I'm not overly -- from everything that I'm seeing margin-wise and so forth, I don't see major volatility in that. I feel pretty confident about the segment going into the second half. And we will move with customers and of course, based on the contracts that we have. So when I talked about the major impact from the long position, that is more related to price-listed businesses. When it comes to global stock levels, as I said, I think there are some -- we see customers buying a bit longer. I can't comment on exact stock levels. I'm not long enough here to give a really educated answer on that. But it's a fact that at this point, with the current bean prices, there is room for some increases globally. That's all I can say at the moment, unless, Peter, you would have further comments? Operator: Our next question comes from Tom Sykes from Deutsche Bank. Tom Sykes: Firstly, just on the capacity expansion that you're putting into North America and your comments to the earlier question around longer-term demand. I mean, if you're investing into compounds, which is the majority, I believe, of your Food Manufacturing business, are you not just signaling that there is a permanent reduction in cocoa demand even if it's not chocolate demand and that's coming from compound growth rather than cocoa content, if you like? And then just on Gourmet, where would your gross profit per unit be standing versus 12 months ago? And are you saying that you're going to be cutting that even more? Because if you do have this shift towards more compounds and we're in a sort of excess capacity, I suppose, are we not just going to see a rebasing of Gourmet pricing? And indeed, is it still going down? Hein M. Schumacher: Thanks, Tom. I mean, first of all, in investing in North America, as I said, I think the network overall probably didn't keep sort of the pace with evolving customer needs. So I think it's more that we were a bit behind. And we are very, very keen to fill in some of the blanks. We have very good relationships with many customers. Obviously, in North America, we are the market leader. But I want to make sure that for particular needs, and indeed, there could be compound production, that they don't go to alternative suppliers. So what we're doing is we fill in tactical needs, and I believe that, that will strengthen our position with customers significantly. At this point, with the bean price where it is now, we don't see compound necessarily growing faster than chocolate. We're seeing some movements that chocolate is actually back, and we're seeing some customers going back to chocolate. And again, with the current bean price, I believe that is overall probably even beneficial for them. We're sort of at that inflection point. So no, I don't think that compound will continue to always gain. I think what is more important for companies like us is that we're agile and that we can fill in the blanks of the portfolio that customers need. And they will have a need for compound for particular parts of what -- in their portfolio, and they have a need for chocolate. And of course, there is the volatility of the bean price. So I think what is important for us, given our role in the industry, is that we are agile, that we have the ability to supply what is needed. And that is exactly what we're going to do in North America with a number of shorter-term investments. So that's, I would say, for the next 4 to 5 months or so. I want to come back in June, as I said, with a more midterm picture for North America as well as coping with growth in a select number of large emerging markets, and I'm talking mainly Brazil, Indonesia, for example. India, we have ample capacity that can continue to grow. I mean we've done that double digit, and I feel that going to happen, that's going to go -- that will happen going forward. But I want to choose a few of the bigger markets where we have an emerging presence where I think we can succeed, but where we have some bottlenecks that we need to resolve. So I hope that answers the first question on investments. On Gourmet profit, I wasn't exactly sure on the precise question. But I would say there's no rebasing on profitability as such. As I said, there were long positions out there, and then you need to determine what you do, what is your priority. And we feel that retaining customers is driving growth, whilst at some point these positions will unwind and we will be returning to normalized profitability on Gourmet. That's at least what I'm seeing going forward. But in the meantime, we want to make sure that we keep the customer connection that we can compete in our geographies. And that's what we're doing. Peter Vanneste: And maybe just one addition because I think I might have understood in your message that for compound production, we need an entirely new setup of factories, which is not the case, right? We can produce from our existing factories. There's a few interventions you need to do in terms of tanks. But overall, I mean, we can convert our lines. So it's not that if any move happens to compound, that is an entirely new network that we need. Operator: Our next question comes from Antoine Prevot from Bank of America. Antoine Prevot: I have 2 questions, please. First, on coatings. So within Global Chocolate, I mean, could you quantify the volume growth of coating versus true chocolates and especially considering that now CBE is more expensive than cocoa butter, are you seeing maybe some pressure there overall, especially as a pretty big buffer on volume for the past couple of years? And second, on Gourmet, so could you quantify a bit how much of your chocolate profit comes from the Gourmet side? I mean, it's about 20% of your volume, but I would suspect it's much higher on the profit. And considering the reinvestments and like the price change you're doing into like H2, how quickly do you expect a situation to improve there on volume? Hein M. Schumacher: Thank you, Antoine. So I think Peter takes the second question on the composition of the profit, if I got it right. I think on your first question, overall on compounds, by the way, we call it cacao coatings, we saw flat growth in the first half, but with a double-digit growth for particular super compound products. Don't forget that I'm talking about investments in compounds. And yes, we need to follow the customer, but we are the leader actually globally in cacao coatings. And we have quite a few R&D projects with many of our customers on the way to continue to compete in that well. So if I sort of take a step back, as a company, what we are offering, we're offering the chocolate solution, we're offering the cacao coatings, but also non-cocoa solutions. And in that sense, we are partnering with Planet A Foods. We're working on what we call ChoViva, which is a non-cocoa product, which also has its own cost structure, and we will continue to invest in those type of alternatives. So we're very keen to provide the whole portfolio. Now again, flat growth in the first half with particular double-digit growth in a subsegment what we call super compound products. Peter Vanneste: Yes. And on Gourmet, Antoine, yes, it's about 20% of our volumes and it's over-proportional in terms of our profit split. We're not really disclosing a lot of details on it. But as you mentioned, it's a lot more accretive than the FM business. Volume-wise, 20%, despite the challenges, it's still performing relatively better than the FM business as we speak. And also in H2, I mean, we will invest, as we said, some of that long position, but it doesn't mean that we'll be cutting even more. We expect actually positive evolution in our business in chocolate, both on the FM and the Gourmet side going forward in the second half. Yes, I think that's where we are on the Gourmet side and everything else I think we said before, as it is linked to the very steep decline of the bean price, we do expect this to be a temporary phenomenon. Operator: Our next question comes from Samantha Darbyshire from Goldman Sachs. Samantha Darbyshire: My first question is just around the end markets. It would be really helpful to get some context from you around how you're expecting them to progress from here. You've got pretty good visibility on the order book, it seems. How much of this is kind of because your customers are innovating, having to bring out new products to kind of support that volume growth? And how much of it is that you think that consumers are adjusting to the price levels of chocolate products right now? And kind of along those lines, are you starting to see any appetite from your customers to reduce prices or increase promotions, increase pack sizes to get the volume coming back in the market? And if there's any regional context as well, that would be super helpful. And then just switching to, just thinking about your service levels, can you perhaps contextualize where they are versus history? I know that it's been quite volatile. There's been a lot of disruption. But if we think about where Barry Callebaut used to be, say, 5 years ago, how significantly below that are we? I know that the company is below industry levels. But any kind of indication of the delta would be really helpful. Hein M. Schumacher: Thanks, Sam, for the questions. So first, I would like to talk a bit about the market and our customers and what consumers are doing. Let me just make a few points here. And some of it will be repetitive, I hope you don't mind. But obviously, there are lower bean prices and we're seeing a flattening as well of the futures curve. So there are some early signs, as I said, of market stabilization for our customers. So customers are therefore also willing to book further in advance. As I call it, these are longer positions, and there is some room for higher inventories overall. I think we're seeing that customers are pricing through to some extent. Obviously, that's a customer decision. I don't want to go too deep on that. But I'm very encouraged by what I'm seeing with some of our large customers in particularly North America. Ferrero, and we said it in the presentation, they launched their go all-in promotion lasting from April to July, and that's backed up by significant investments. They've made a very public statement about that $100 million investment. Hershey also making significant media investments in this year with a very big launch around Reese's and Hershey. It's the first launch for them since a number of years that is sort of at this magnitude. So we're seeing restored confidence. Obviously, the margin profile will help given the lower bean prices. So these are, I think, very positive signs for recovery going forward. We're also seeing, therefore, some increased innovation interest from our CPG customers. And as I said, that we do across the whole portfolio. We're seeing -- particularly in Western Europe, we're seeing interest in the non-cocoa solutions for ChoViva, the brand that I talked about before, but also the high flavanol opportunity, the high flavanol innovation in AMEA, and this is gaining really good traction in Japan as well as in China. So if I sort of summarize lower bean prices, so therefore, customers going a bit long. Secondly, a very specific big initiative from some of our large customers that will help the market. And third, we're seeing if we are focusing our efforts behind scalable innovation platforms, we believe that particularly on a regional basis, we're seeing increased interest. So I would say, these are very positive signs. And therefore, we believe that the second half, we can return to a growth picture. On customer service levels, yes, I look back to a number of years ago. And particularly in the last 1.5 years or so, we have been below our historical averages. I don't want to call out one customer service level, because you need to drill down a little bit. And customer service can, for example, become low if your portfolio is not exactly the customer needs. So can you deliver against an unconstrained demand? That's a question. And in many cases, we haven't been able to do so, and that's why we're making these investments. The second one is, due to disruptions, do you need to cancel contracts or cancel deliveries that the customer has asked for. So in some of our key segments, we've seen customer service levels even somewhat below 80%. They are now improving fast. And again, that's where we're laser-focused on to get them to the highest possible level now. And I think that's something that we do progressively well. So without calling particularly percentages too much, I would say we weren't at the level that we were a number of years ago due to disruptions, due to many process changes, due to the whole transformation impact. We're now going back to fewer initiatives, restoring customer service on those areas where we really need it and preparing for a midterm picture. And obviously, I'd like to come back to you in June on what that looks like. I think that concludes the overall -- if I'm not wrong, this was the last question? Operator: Correct. We currently have no further questions. Hein M. Schumacher: Thank you, everyone, for spending time with us this morning. We are looking forward to come back to you in June with a full update on the Focus for Growth program and to have more interactions with you in the next couple of days as well as after the June conference. Thanks a lot, and speak soon. Peter Vanneste: Thank you.
Operator: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the hVIVO Annual Results Investor Presentation. [Operator Instructions] Before we begin, we'd like to submit the following poll, and please do give that your attention. I'm sure the company will be most grateful. I'd now like to hand over to CEO and CFO, Mo, Stephen, good afternoon. Yamin Khan: Good afternoon. Thank you for the intro. So I'm Yamin Mo Khan. I'm the CEO of hVIVO. I've been with the company for just over 4 years, and I have with me our CFO, Stephen. Stephen Pinkerton: I'm Steve Pinkerton. I've been with the company for almost 9 years. I've been the CFO for the last 4 years. Yamin Khan: I would like to welcome you all to our full year 2025 results. The company has had a challenging 2025, at least financially. But operationally, I think we've done some great work, and we'll go through both our operational achievements as well as our key financial parameters. So we'll move straight on to the financial -- the normal disclaimer and then really to go through the company's overview of what we are planning to do from a strategy point of view and what we have achieved because it's key to have a strategy, of course, it is, but it's also key to see how we are progressing in executing that strategy. So as you all know, we are the world leader in human challenge trials, and we will remain so, and we are continuing working hard to expand our human challenge trial capabilities. But one of our key focus area is to continue to diversify and add new capability. And that's been part of our action for the whole of 2025 and 2026. And we'll really talk about how we are diversifying into new areas. So new stages of clinical development from preclinical all the way to end of Phase III, whereas historically, we've run the Phase II human challenge trial and also expanding our therapeutic expertise, not just doing infectious disease trials, but doing respiratory and cardiometabolic too. And on top of that, of course, through our acquisitions, we already have achieved a geographic expansion into Germany and pan-European presence. And I think the key thing is that in 2025, we have already achieved a number of the key criteria that we were looking at. So the expansion into Phase I is done. We are now retiring the brand names for Venn Life Sciences, CRS as well as Cryostore and rebranded ourselves under the single one hVIVO brand, which you may have seen launched yesterday on LinkedIn and other social media channels. Going forward, we want to provide our customers with an integrated end-to-end drug development platform under the hVIVO brand and operating ourselves under 4 different service lines, which I will describe later on. I will be focusing on the diversification of services, but please note that this is not at the cost of human challenge trials. We want to continue to build our human challenge trial capability and remain ahead of everyone else. But the key focus for us is to remain more diversified and offer a greater portfolio of services across the board. We have built a new challenge model. So we've launched contemporary human challenge models in influenza as well as the world's only commercial hMPV challenge model. We've also recognized some cross-selling opportunities whereas historically, we may have not approached customers in Phase I. Now we can offer them the Phase I, Phase II combination as well as Phase I and human challenge trial combination. Post period, we've had some really excellent highlights with the new trials contract we announced yesterday as a really good signal that human challenge trials are returning and back to normal. This is an influenza prophylactic antiviral challenge trial that will take place this year, and we expect to recognize the majority of revenue in 2026. We also are in the process of finalizing our agreement for our world's first Phase III human challenge trial in whooping cough with ILiAD Biotechnologies. With that, I'll hand over to Stephen to go through the key financials. Stephen Pinkerton: Good evening, everyone. 2025 has just -- has been a challenging year for this business. We delivered GBP 46.8 million. That's in line with our downgrade that we gave in May 2025. It happened quite quickly. We faced a number of cancellations right in the April, May time. Normally, the number of cancellations that we have is around about 2 on an average. And this -- and we had quite a bit more than 2 in the current year. And that is the main reason for the lower revenue performance. However, I think the business has adjusted well. We made a profit of GBP 1.4 million despite these headwinds from the U.S. and that's after the net acquisition losses of GBP 1.4 million. So the underlying performance of this business was profitable in the circumstances. Cost management was at the foreground, but the efficiencies that we achieved in 2025 to establish in 2025 pull through in 2025. One of the clearest examples is recruitment. We were able to leverage our database rather than go out for lead generation and spend money on advertising and things like that. But clearly, one of the clear reasons for the profitability was also these cancellation fees carried no variable spend attached to them and flowed through to the bottom line. And this gives you a sense of whilst HCT got impacted significantly by the headwinds in the U.S. with infectious diseases and vaccinations not being in favor, our contract model softened the blow somewhat in this -- on our HCT studies -- on our HCT revenues. Moving on to cash. Cash of GBP 14.3 million was a little bit better than the expectations, although this is much lower than we started the year at GBP 44.2 million. Just under 50% of that is due to the acquisitions supporting the working capital and also obviously, the consideration for acquiring -- making those acquisitions. Just over 50% of that is due to the core business and the limited number of HCT trials that we have signed in 2025 or before the end of the year. The Board has made the decision not to pay a dividend for 2025. That's really -- the value of the dividend is GBP 1.4 million, and we felt it's much better spent investing and growing in the long-term future of this business. The order book of GBP 30 million is -- compares to GBP 43.5 million has been restated. So previously, we would have included the full value of a contract at the time when the contract is signed. However -- when an SUA is signed, a study start-up agreement is signed. However, because we faced a number of cancellations and we have changed the methodology. At the time we set up a start-up agreement, we get start-up fees and we get a booking fee. And because that booking fee was seen as a commitment, we would use the CTA full value. However, we're now only including the contracted values in the order book. And we are also now only announcing contracts when the CTA value -- when the CTA has been signed with clients. So there is a bit of delay because, first of all, you've had headwinds affecting the HCT market. And we're now only announcing studies once the CTA is signed. And the time between SUA and CTA can be anything between 5 months to 12 months in Signature in terms of when they sign between the 2. But there's another slide further on, and Mo will take you through more on the order book going forward. Just touch on revenue. This is a waterfall from 2024 to 2025, the key sort of drivers and changes in the revenue makeup mix over 2025. Remember, in 2024, we did receive facility fees that clients paid us to effectively what we built up in Canary Wharf for a large study that was delivered in 2024, and that was roughly about GBP 4 million. HCT, we've just talked about, it did decline significantly. It's due to a number of cancellations. I also wanted just to highlight that some of that decline has got to do with -- in HCT, we also include manufacturing revenue, which is around about 10%. 10% of the HCT sales that we make is where we have manufactured challenge agents for clients. And so I don't want people to remember that this is an important part of our portfolio is being able to develop challenge agents. Clinical Trials were slightly up year-on-year. We did have a high volume in 2024, where we -- and we've managed to be able to repeat it in 2025. So I think that's quite a good performance. Labs is slightly up. It is off a low base, but we see a pretty good order book going forward on that. Consultancy was down, and that's mainly because a big pharma took some work in-house. But with the support of CRS, we're beginning to see some cross-selling from the CRS clients into our consultancy -- early clinical consultancy services, so that's improving. Looking at the acquisitions, Cryostore at 0.8 million, that was their revenue for the year. That's perfectly in line with our expectations and the due diligence work that we did on Cryostore. They are delivering as expected. It's a high margin. It is a business that has sort of 90% to 95% retention rate. So it's a great little business and it's doing very well. Clinical Trials, our German acquisition, GBP 12.3 million is a little lower than we expected at our due diligence stage. It was really down to the RFPs in 2024 not converting as expected as per previous sort of conversion rates, impacted definitely by the whole sector. The whole sector had a little bit of a hesitation and a hiccup across the CRO sector. So certainly that impacted. However, we have seen an uptick in the conversion rates in 2025, offsetting some of that shortfall in 2024 -- of the 2024 RFPs. And then just to touch on cash, a little bit of cash utilization here. I've just tried to split how we've utilized our cash. We have utilized some GBP 29 million. This is the core. We used GBP 15.4 million and inorganic work, it was GBP 14.5 million. Cash generated from operations of GBP 10.4 million is obviously due to the HCT where we've had unwinding of the deferred revenue and the new sales on HCT is still to come back and looking at the pipeline, that's looking positive. But obviously, it's impacted us for 2025. The purchase of PPE, the GBP 1.4 million is largely lab equipment. We did purchase the first digital PCR equipment in Europe, Hamilton. It's a great piece of kit. It's quite expensive, but it supports us with our field study work that we're doing on Cidara and new field work that we're going to do. It's much faster and it's much more efficient as well. Financing activities of GBP 4.6 million includes a dividend of GBP 1.4 million. And obviously, we're not paying that in 2025. It's in 2026. So there's no dividend going on. The other thing that we benefited in 2024 was we had a rent-free period in Canary Wharf. So our lease payments have jumped up by about GBP 2 million to GBP 3 million in 2025. So that's the makeup of the GBP 4.6 million. Then just the acquisitions, GBP 10.5 million spent on consideration costs and the GBP 4 million is really the sort of the working capital and funding the loss for the year. But overall, I think the business has reacted quite well to the headwinds that we have faced and try to reflect there is some resilience in the business in terms of the way we contract to soften the blow, and we're well set to go forward. And with that, I'll hand you over to Mo. Yamin Khan: Thank you, Stephen, for going through the numbers. I want to really focus on why do I feel bullish going forward. We've just been through a challenging 2025, and we had a profit warning in 2025. The share price has been depressed. But I still believe that as a company, we've had a transformational year. So we've gone through 2 acquisitions, Cryostore in London and 2 clinical research units in Germany from CRS. And we realigned our company under the single one hVIVO brand. The reason why that is important is we want to offer a one-stop shop for our customers to go from preclinical is at the consulting stage all the way to end of Phase II or end of proof of concept, basically to show a signal whether a drug works or not as well as offering Phase III site services. So under the 4 different arms we have right now that we are fully operational and currently in working practice, the consulting arm focuses on CMC, PK, regulatory type of consulting with majority of really falls under the former Venn team. But they work very closely with the clinical trial service arm in the sense that when we are running a Phase I trial, as part of that, we may be helping our customers to design protocols, write clinical development plans, obtain regulatory advice. So the clinical trial service unit works very closely with the consulting arm. Under the Clinical Trials unit, we also include the Phase II nonhuman challenge trials we run, both in Germany, but also in the United Kingdom, in London, in particular. The third arm is the human challenge trial arm. But this is a legacy arm where we manufacture new challenge models, we validate them and then we run the human challenge trial work on that. And the final piece to the [indiscernible] is, of course, is the laboratory piece, which historically has catered human challenge trials, but now is a stand-alone business on its own. So it will continue to provide services to the human challenge trial -- clinical trial business. But on top of that, we also expect to service third-party clients, trials run by third-party CROs. Cidara being a key example where we provided full center virology assistance in the laboratory aspect to 50 sites in Phase II to 150 sites in the Phase III. What this enables us to do is to handhold the client from the beginning to the proof of concept. It also means that we're able to access new clients independent of the stage they're at with regards to the clinical development program. Historically, we were a Phase II human challenge trial business. Now we can attract clients whether they're in preclinical Phase I, Phase II or Phase III. So this automatically increases the portfolio of our customers. Having said all of that, I want to reiterate human challenge trials remain a key component of our offerings. We are no longer relying on them as a sole provider of future revenue. In 2024, over 85% of our revenue was generated from human challenge trials. In this year, we are forecasting less than 50% of our revenue to come from human challenge trials. Of course, this is partly due to the downturn in the human challenge trial awards and the cancellations we've had in 2025. But it does show the progress we have made in the non-challenge trial business, the fact that we can now expect over 50% of our revenue to come from non-challenge trial business. The scale and breadth of the company has also radically changed. We now have over 200 beds in a variety of different locations where we can treat patients for all sorts of clinical trials. We've created centers of excellence for different type of therapeutic areas. So in infectious diseases and also respiratory in London, cardiometabolic in Mannheim, renal and hepatic special population studies in KIEL. Now this gives us, again, access to new customers that we have not had access before. CRS historically have mostly worked with German customers. Now we are targeting our sales activities to pan-European and also U.S. customers to run their trials in Germany with the -- for the Phase I part. We've seen volatility within the FDA and more and more customers looking to do early-stage clinical development outside of the U.S., whether that's in Australia or in Europe. And we want to play a key role in attracting those customers to you, especially in Germany when it comes to Phase I trials. On the human challenge trial business, as I said before, we want to continue to build on this and be the world leader. We do majority of the commercial human challenge trials that are conducted in the world. We've added a new human metapneumovirus model, hMPV challenge model. It is the only active challenge model commercially available in hMPV. We've renewed our influenza viruses in a number of different strains and Traws Pharma is taking advantage of a new contemporary viral model that we have in place that we launched last year. And we will continue to build on our human challenge trial business, and that's key. We're also potentially expanding into respiratory human challenge trials, challenging asthmatic or COPD patients to cause mild exacerbation and testing new antivirals or asthma and COPD products. So human challenge trials will remain a crucial part of the business. We have 3 other key growth initiatives that I want to walk you through. And the reason why they're important is I expect them to contribute significantly going forward as part of our non-human challenge trial business. The first one is the cardiometabolic. I'm sure you are all aware of the recent boom in anti-obesity drugs. And we want to be part of a clinical development team that tests new anti-obesity drugs. But cardiometabolic is more than just anti-obesity drugs. It also includes drugs targeted against diabetes, for example, hypertension, high cholesterol levels in patients. We have a world-renowned endocrinologist, key opinion leader in doctor -- Professor, sorry, Thomas Forst, who heads up our -- who is our Chief Medical Officer at CRS or now the clinical trial service arm, who is responsible for leading this franchise. He acts as a director on several advisory boards for Big Pharma. And we believe through our initiatives in attracting new customers outside of Germany, supplementing the patient recruitment with the U.K.-based FluCamp now fully implemented in Germany, we can run more trials in Germany. The key for us is that we offer Phase I and Phase II combo trial delivery platforms, Phase I in healthy volunteers and expanding into Phase II patient-based studies. Now in our group of service providers, there are not many vendors out there that can provide both healthy volunteer Phase I trials and Phase II patient studies. And there's a gap in the market, which we want to make the most of. Our second key driver is respiratory. So historically, on the human challenge side, almost all of our challenge trials have been run in infectious diseases that target the respiratory system. So we inherently have a really strong respiratory franchise with some really good experts and our facility is equipped already to monitor different respiratory parameters when it comes to running Phase II and Phase III trials. And that's something we are now making the most of in the sense that we are targeting clients, respiratory clients to conduct non-challenge trials. We run a number of non-challenge asthma trials. We have a huge database of patients both in asthma and COPD. And we're now seeing traction from our clients who are interested in running field studies with us on both asthma and COPD indications. And this is something, again, we want to build on and then build new indications on the back of delivering these types of patients. The third and final piece of the puzzle is a laboratory. We want to build the laboratories. As I mentioned earlier, historically, laboratory has catered for our human challenge trials. We now have a strong stand-alone business. We've added new capabilities to this. We have added a droplet digital PCR machine that can automate and speed up the analysis of samples for PCR purposes. We've also added a next-generation sequence capability, which is NGS capability. It means that we can sequence pathogens or other molecules much faster than we have previously done. In fact, we formally outsourced this piece of work because it was part of the human challenge trial business. And now by bringing it in-house, we can increase our revenues and improve our margins. And our goal is to continuously monitor the requirements in the market for different types of laboratory requirements and to target customers for repeat business in this area. And the end-to-end platform isn't just a fancy word that I say to try and promote hVIVO to you. It's something that we have seen in action. Cidara is a really good case study. Cidara is a U.S.-based biotech company that came to us 3 years ago almost when we ran the human challenge trial. On the back of positive results from our human challenge trial, we were a site -- a clinical site in the Phase II field study, where we contributed around 1 in 6 patients in the total recruitment base. On top of that, we acted at the central virology laboratory for the Phase II trial. That was a positive outcome for that trial. On the back of that trial, Cidara was sold to Merck for $9 billion. We are currently, again, working with Cidara, now Merck on a Phase III study, also acting as a clinical site and a central virology laboratory for over 150 sites or hospitals around the world who send their samples to our laboratory where we analyze the primary endpoints. This is something we want to do more of, and we have now diversified to include both the consulting and the Phase I. So now, for example, we can speak to a customer at the preclinical stage, help them formulate their product through our CMC and our PK consulting services, take them to the regulatory bodies through regulatory consultants, do and conduct the Phase I trial first in human clinical trial and then the Phase II trial in patients. And along this journey, by doing it under one contract, one roof, it means you improve the efficiencies, you enhance the quality and you reduce the cost. All these are very attractive sentiments to a biotech who is looking to get to and the proof of concept with -- as fast as possible and potentially as cheap as possible. The reason why I feel this is important is because I believe that going forward, we will see an increase in number of trials done by biotech to get to Phase II. That's because the Big Pharma are cash rich right now. But they also have a challenge of a very big patent cliff, around $300 billion worth of new branded drugs will expire their patents in the next 5 years. This means that after that, the revenue that these companies will get from the branded product will reduce significantly because there will be copycat generics on the market at a much cheaper price. To fulfill their pipeline, Big Pharma will spend money to buy new assets. And because they're cash rich, they can afford to pay a higher price and get a drug that is at a later stage of development, so lower risk of development. If that was to happen, the biotech companies need to run Phase I and Phase II trials. And that's where we come in. We can work with these biotech companies and give them an enhanced package to get to end of Phase II. And the therapeutic is we're working on what we call primary care indications. So these are indications where you would typically go to your GP for rather than a hospital. So we focus on infectious diseases, in respiratory, in cardiometabolic. We can add other franchises, for example, women's health or dermatology and so on. And the key for us here is to have an integrated end-to-end delivery system that requires minimum effort and resources from a biotech. So their team can remain small and nimble and we could be the workforce underneath them to get to the stage where they're ready to market themselves to Big Pharma, just like we helped Cidara to do. The diversification, again, isn't all talk, okay? I mentioned the fact that 50% of the revenue will come from non-challenge trials. And you can look at the order book. The order book is also diversified. Stephen explained our new algorithm when we announced the order book and new contracts. And the key to that is that it should be more resilient, more reliable because it's closer to the execution of the work rather than at the start-up agreement. It also means that our order book in this instance, as you can see, will be lower than previously stated because we are announcing this contract at a more mature stage. This order book for 2025, of course, does not include the Traws Pharma contract because that was signed in post period. But I would want you to focus on the other areas and the growth we are seeing across the board in the different service lines. And that's key for us. So we want to build the human challenge order book. Of course, we do, but we also want to continue to build and grow and accelerate the order book in the non-human challenge trial areas. When it comes to new proposals, we've also seen a really good uptick. So 2025 numbers were significantly better across the board compared to 2024. And this year already, in the first quarter of 2026, we've seen a 50% increase in new proposals submitted year-on-year. And the variety of clients we're getting is also much greater than ever before. And I want to reiterate this. We're now attracting clients in new therapeutic areas. We're also attracting clients at different stages of clinical development. And that's key for us to build a future to diversify and derisk. If something like what happened last year was ever happened again, we are much better placed to manage that. And the final slide, just to sum up where we're at. So I totally understand people's frustrations, investors' frustration with regards to the financial outcomes and the share price depression in 2025. But I hope I have relayed some of the key work we have done. We've been very busy in getting the acquisitions on board, realigning the company to diversify and integrated end-to-end delivery system. And that's something we want to continue to go forward with. The CRS and the Cryostore integration are fully complete. We have all the line management realigned. We have launched new group-wide systems that work across all our colleagues across the group. You've seen from the pipeline is strong. The short to medium-term outlook is very good. We have signed Traws Pharma as a major human challenge trial. We hope to finalize the ILiAD contract soon. So the pipeline is very strong. And in the meantime, by the way, we are continuously signing Phase 1 contracts. These are generally between GBP 600,000 to GBP 1 million in value. So they're not announceable. But I'm pleased to say we are continuously working with new clients as well as some repeat clients in the preferred providerships that we are building the order book on that side as well. And with having said all that, we are confident that we will achieve high single-digit revenue growth in 2026. Thank you for your attention. Operator: [Operator Instructions] Investors before we go into the Q&A session, a recording of this presentation will be available via the Investor Meet Company platform shortly after today's call. Mo, Stephen, you received a number of questions from investors both ahead of the event and during today's event. So thank you, firstly, to everyone for your engagement. If I may just hand back to you, Mo, maybe you could kindly navigate us through the Q&A, and I'll pick up from you at the end. Yamin Khan: Great. Thank you. Okay. I'll get straight on to it. What is the outlook of firming orders with ILiAD now that funding has been secured by the firm? So the funding has been secured by the firm. You're absolutely right. And part of the funding has been allocated to run a human challenge trial with us, of course. The contractual negotiations are almost fully complete, and we are near finalization of this contract. So look out for the, hopefully, the [indiscernible] soon with regards to the announcement of the fully signed contract with ILiAD, which will be the world's first Phase III pivotal whooping cough trial. And just to kind of comment on this further, this will create a significant press when it comes to human challenge trials because the FDA, the MHRA and the EMA, the European agency, have agreed to use a human challenge trial data as a part of the submission package to get to marketing authorization. This has not been done before proactively. So this sets a precedent, hopefully, for future clients and sponsors to ask the same from regulators to use a human challenge trial as a way to get to license here. So something we are very proud of. We are, of course, very delighted that ILiAD has preselected us as their preferred partner, but this is bigger than just hVIVO. This would impact the whole human challenge trial franchise once that data is produced. What is the value of Traws Pharma deal to hVIVO plc? As you know, we have not publish the value of the contract. I think what I know this is price sensitive and competitive sensitive. And I'm sure our clients would not like to share -- us share confidential information with you guys. But it's a good, strong contract with up to 150 people being enrolled into the study. And as I mentioned, this will start almost immediately. In fact, the proprietary work has already started, and we look to complete majority of the trial in 2026. In light of the new Traws Pharma, HCT, will we have better capacity for ILiAD? Yes. The way we have planned out all this work, of course, there is capacity to conduct both trials in 2026. But the ILiAD contract, by the way, is multiyear. So it will go from '26 but the majority of the revenue, in fact, now will be recognized in 2027. And I think it goes to show the resilience of the company now where if you ask me 12 months ago, ILiAD would have formed a large proportion of 2026 revenues. But for a variety of reasons, that study has been delayed, but we are still sticking to our guidance. So even though ILiAD will form a much smaller portion of the 2026 revenue, we still are very confident of our guidance we have put out there. But in 2027, we expect ILiAD to perform even more with regards to revenue recognition. Isn't the CRO market extremely crowded? In that case, why are you expanding your CRO offering instead of doubling down on human challenge? It's a very good question. So human challenge trial, I think we have doubled down, if you will. We are the world leader. We have over 12 different challenge models. Nobody comes near us. We have around 350,000 people on a database that we can use to recruit healthy volunteers. Again, nobody comes near that. We've done 50 trials to date, over 5,000 healthy volunteers in operated. So we are the world leader in this. There's no doubt about that. But we have to be careful as we've seen in 2025. If you rely on one single modality, you do risk your future growth. And for that reason, we do want to grow further. But your key point that the CRO market is crowded, it's correct. But it's crowded in certain stages of development. There are not many multisite CROs out there that can do healthy volunteer Phase I studies and then expand into multisite patient study. We own our own clinical sites. Most CROs will go to third-party sites and rely on their recruitment capability. 80% of the trials that are delayed, are delayed due to poor patient recruitment. And that is a problem we will solve by internalizing patient recruitment. So our own team, our patient recruitment team will recruit patients into the London facilities as well as the German facilities. So although the CRO market is crowded, I believe we have a niche that will grow because of the pharma requirements of a more [indiscernible] product from biotechs, and that's what we want to service. The choice to reduce your overdependent on human challenge trial studies and smooth out the revenue cycle. So we're not reducing our human challenge trial capability. But we are diluting it by increasing the non-challenge franchises, absolutely. And the reason behind that, of course, as you mentioned, is to reduce volatility and lumpiness and cycle, if you will. I think this one is for you, Stephen. Is hVIVO plc evaluating further cost-cutting measures given the business outlook? Stephen Pinkerton: So we have a very good operational team where we plan out all our known studies. So we plan based on our contracted work and then we always look to scale accordingly. So yes, we plan our costs based on known factors, on our known studies. And yes, so we are always looking at our cost base, but there's no significant change that we're expecting in the short term. Yamin Khan: Thank you. The next question is a long question. I'll just get to the end. Will the company ever start winning new HCT trials again? And if so, when? Well, we won one yesterday, which was announced. So that's something. And as I mentioned earlier, we are looking to finalize the agreement with ILiAD on what will be our largest ever human challenge trial. Will you -- Stephen, this is one for you. Will you be paying dividends as I'm sure shareholders will be quite disgruntled about the past few years? Stephen Pinkerton: Okay. So as I mentioned earlier in the presentation, the Board has decided not to pay a dividend this year. We'd rather spend the money on investing for the future growth of this business. And if you think about it, at the beginning of the year, we had GBP 44.2 million and it seemed churlish not to pay a dividend. But we -- now we have GBP 14 million, which is more than enough for our sustainable growth, but we think it's better to spend that money, all of that money going forward and investing and growing this business for. Yamin Khan: Why did you decide to have your largest facility in Canary Wharf instead of a cheaper location elsewhere in London? What tilted the decision in favor of Canary Wharf? It was an economical decision. So we did look at a number of options in and around London, and this was the optimum with regards to location to get access to healthy volunteers and patients, but also economically, it was a very favorable terms for us. Remember, Canary Wharf were and still are attracting more life science companies to this campus. And as part of that, they really wanted us to be involved and spearhead that campaign. Apart from ILiAD, are there any other HCT deals that are close to signing over the next 3 months or so? So I can't comment on next 3 months or so, but absolutely, there are multiple deals we are currently working on, which are currently at the proposal stage. You saw the increase in proposals that we have seen in 2025, which have increased by 50% in the first quarter of 2026. So the pipeline of work remains very strong, and we do hope to close a few of these in the coming months and in the future periods. If hVIVO plc evaluating further acquisitions, we always will keep an open eye on further acquisition for the right fit. I think that will be key rather than the size and the timing. If the deal is good and it gives us access to new therapeutic areas, new geographies, then we will seriously have a look at those options. This is one for you, Stephen. How would you say your fixed cost and variable cost split? Just a rough split would be useful. Stephen Pinkerton: So this is actually not a straightforward answer because we have quite a number of different contracts in place with our clients and different revenue types. So I mean, if you think about our consultancy business, it's got capacity, it's not fully utilized. So what is my variable spend in that case? There isn't any. I can take on more work. If I look at HCT trials, the sort of the variable spend on the HCT trial is maybe 15%. If I look at the Clinical Trials business, the variable spend will be roughly 25% to 30%. So it's very much dependent on your revenue mix. Yamin Khan: Thank you. I can see we are running out of time. I think we've got 1 minute left, so I'll quickly go through a couple of, I guess, different questions. So does the Lab only service samples taken in London? Or can you process samples from anywhere in the U.K. So we process samples that are taken anywhere in the world, to be honest. So we have a whole biologistic arm that works with courier partners and ships samples at the right temperature control environments to our Canary Wharf facility here on this floor, in fact, where we have all the equipment ready to process samples. So we do manage a large number of samples in any given week, especially for ongoing trials such as the Cidara trial. Is the strategic move towards diversifying our revenue sources also margin accretive in the medium to long run compared to previous revenue mix. Stephen, do you want to get that? Stephen Pinkerton: I missed that one. Yamin Khan: Is the strategic move towards diversifying our revenue sources also margin accretive in the medium, long run compared to the previous revenue mix? Stephen Pinkerton: No, HCT was definitely a much more profitable piece of the business, especially when you're running multiple HCT trials at the same time. So we're able to leverage our fixed cost base a lot more efficiently over HCT. Clinical Trials is a lot more outpatient. So obviously, you have a lot more sort of transactional type of work to get through. So Clinical Trials is a lot more competitive environment as well. So your margins are a little bit tighter. Labs is probably a bit better, your margins are a bit better there because it's a contact with the client and Consultancy has also got a different margin. So the new revenue streams don't necessarily improve the margin. But when you start dealing with scale, then you start getting an improvement in margin. So with HCT coming back and with the scale that we're envisaging and driving towards on the other new revenue streams, which should get closer to where we were previously. Yamin Khan: Thank you. On that note, I will close our presentation. I think we've gone 2 minutes over. Thank you, everyone. Operator: That's okay. Thank you, Mo, Stephen. And of course, we'll make any other questions available post today's call. Mo, Stephen, I know investor feedback, as usual, is very important to you both. I'll shortly redirect those on the call to give you their thoughts and expectations. But perhaps final words over to you, Mo, and then I'll send investors to give you feedback. Yamin Khan: Yes. So I want to thank everyone for your loyalty in hVIVO. I hope we have described at least some of the key points that we have achieved in 2025 and continue to do so in 2026. I appreciate financially, it was a challenging year, but you've seen the actions we have completed, and I think our strategy is sound. We are going for a market gap that currently exists. We're offering services that are unique. And I think our future is now derisked, and we are a much more resilient and less volatile company. Operator: That's great. Mo, Stephen, thank you once again for your time. If I could please ask investors not to close this session as we'll now automatically redirect you so you can provide your feedback directly to the company. On behalf of the management team of hVIVO plc, I would like to thank you for attending today's presentation, and enjoy the rest of your day.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to Wipro Limited Q4 FY '26 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded and the duration for today's call will be for 45 minutes. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Abhishek Jain, Vice President, Corporate Treasurer and Head of Investor Relations. Thank you, and over to you. Abhishek Jain: Yes, [ Sashi ]. Thank you. Warm welcome to our Q4 FY '26 earnings call. We'll begin the call with business highlights and overview by Srinivas Pallia, our Chief Executive Officer and Managing Director, followed by updates on financial overview by our CFO, Aparna Iyer; we also have our CHRO, Saurabh Govil; and our Chief Strategist and Technology Officer, Hari Shetty on this call. Afterwards, the operator will open the bridge for Q&A with our management team. Before Srini starts, let me draw your attention to the fact that during this call, we may make certain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reforms at 1995. These statements are based on management's current expectations and are associated with uncertainties and risks, which may cause the actual results to differ materially from those expected. The uncertainty and risk factors are explained in our detailed filings with the SEC. Wipro does not undertake any obligation to update the forward-looking statements to reflect events and circumstances after the date of filing. The conference call will be archived and a transcript will be available on our website. With that, I would like to turn over the call to Srini. Srini, Over to you. Srinivas Pallia: Thanks, Abhishek. Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. Geopolitical and policy disruptions have become the new normal. Despite these headwinds, IT spending has shown resilience. Cloud, data and AI continue to attract investments as they provide infrastructure for future growth. Client priorities are shifting with spending decisions increasingly tied to outcomes. And at Wipro, we continue to make decisive investments to navigate the AI-first world. With that context, let me now turn to our performance in quarter 4 and for the full year FY 2025 '26. All growth numbers I shared will be in constant currency. Our IT Services revenue for quarter 4 was $2.65 billion, reflecting a sequential growth of 0.2% and degrowth of 2% on a year-on-year basis. Our operating margin came at 17.3%, a contraction of 30 basis points sequentially. The order booking for quarter 4 was at $3.5 billion, which is a growth of 3.2% sequentially and a degrowth of 13.9% on a year-on-year basis. We had 14 large deals totaling $1.4 billion this quarter. For the full year, IT Services revenue were $10.5 billion, reflecting a year-on-year degrowth of 1.6%. Our operating margin was at 17.2%, an expansion of almost 15 basis points as compared to FY '25. Now to our strategic market unit performance in quarter 4. Americas 1 delivered sequential and year-on-year growth, driven by strong performance in consumer, technology and communications. The health care center was impacted by seasonality and policy changes. Americas 2 decline sequentially and on a year-on-year basis. The BFSI sector was impacted by delayed ramp-ups on some large deals that were closed earlier this year and by certain client-specific issues. Europe grew sequentially and has remained flat on a year-on-year basis. We see good traction in the U.K., specifically in the BFSI sector. We also see strong deal momentum in Germany. APMEA grew sequentially and on a year-on-year basis. Growth driven by Southeast Asia. We are seeing traction in the BFSI, technology and communication sectors. We are encouraged by the momentum we are seeing in the APMEA region both in performing and bets we continue to make there. A strong example is the strategic deal we announced recently with the [indiscernible] expected to exceed $1 billion in contract value with a committed spend of $800 million. This is 1 of our largest engagements to date in APMEA. In this quarter, we also closed several strategic engagements. Let me highlight 2 examples with global technology leaders to drive AI at scale and how Wipro is partnering with them. In my first example, a leading global technology company has engaged Wipro to help run and improve its frontier AI models. Wipro will manage the end-to-end operation of these AI models from training, governance and evaluation to domain-specific validation. In fact, this engagement will be done to a specialized global delivery platform. We will make these models more accurate, reliable and safe while ensuring they can be deployed and managed at scale. In my second example, we have been selected by a leading global semiconductor company to provide engineering services that accelerate product development and manufacturing across its complex hardware platforms at locations distributed globally. We will support the entire engineering life cycle from product development to performance testing analysis. Before final shipment is made by our clients to their end clients. This will help our clients achieve faster resolution management, higher yield and improved governance with AI-driven analytics and automation. As intelligence becomes industrialized and widely accessible, we are making a deliberate strategic pivot to stay ahead. As you might be aware, we have launched a dedicated AI-native business and platforms unit to expand beyond a services-only model to a services-as-a-software approach. This unit will operate with dedicated leadership, focus investments and a distinct operating model to accelerate enterprise-grade agentic AI solutions. [indiscernible] will also incubate new AI businesses through an invest build partner approach in addition to collaborating with Wipro Ventures and our partner ecosystems. Together with core services, this creates a dual engine model, driving transformation at scale while building AI-native platforms that differentiate services enable repeatable deployments and unlock nonlinear growth. With that, let me move on to our guidance for the next quarter. In Q1, we are guiding for a sequential growth of minus 2% to 0% in constant currency terms. Thank you. I'll now hand it over to Aparna, our CFO. Aparna Iyer: Good evening, everyone. Let me share a quick update, and then we can open it up for Q&A. Our IT services revenue for Q4 grew 0.2% sequentially in constant currency terms, and 0.6% in reported currency. Our revenues declined 0.2% on a year-on-year basis in constant currency terms. For the full year FY '26, IT Services revenues declined by 1.6% in constant currency. Our operating margin for the quarter was at 17.3%, a contraction of 0.3% over Q3 '26, and a 0.2% contraction on a year-on-year basis. With this, our full year operating margin stands at 17.2% and expansion of 15 basis points year-on-year. We maintained the margins within a narrow band even after absorbing 2 incremental months of DTS HARMAN. And we also rolled out salary increases effective first March. As we move into Q1, we will have the headwinds of 2 months of salary increase and a few large deals that we've won and the volatility could be there in our quarterly performance. Having said that, our endeavor would be to maintain these margins in a narrow band in the medium term. Net income for the quarter was at INR 35 billion. Adjusted for the impact of labor code changes, our net income increased 3.7% sequentially. For the full year, our net income increased 2.2% year-on-year. This was after absorbing the impact of restructuring charges in both Q1 and Q3 of last year. EPS for the quarter was at INR 3.3 and INR 12.6 for the full year. Moving on to our strategic market unit and sector performance. All the growth numbers that I will be sharing will be in constant currency. Americas 1 grew 0.3% sequentially and grew 2.9% on a year-on-year basis. Americas 2 declined 2.6% sequentially and 6.7% on a year-on-year basis. Europe grew 2% sequentially and was flat on a year-on-year basis. APMEA grew 3.1% sequentially and 0.8% on a year-on-year basis. Moving on to sector performance. BFSI declined 1.3% sequentially and 0.5% year-on-year, Health declined 4.4% sequentially and was flat year-on-year. Consumer grew 1.7% sequentially and declined 2.9% year-on-year. Technology and Communication grew 5.3% sequentially and 10.4% year-on-year. EMR grew 1.1% sequentially and declined 5.9% year-on-year. Let me share some other key financial metrics. Our operating cash flow continues to be higher than the net income and stood at 112.6% of net income for FY '26. Our gross cash including investments was at [ 5.9 billion ]. Accounting yield on average investment held in India was at 7.3%. Our ETR was at 23.5%. In terms of guidance to reiterate the Srini said, we expect our revenue from IT Services business segment to be in the range of $2.597 billion to $2.651 billion. This translates to a sequential guidance of minus in constant currency terms. Lastly, I'd like to share that in our recently concluded Board meeting, the Board of Directors have announced and approved a buyback of INR 15,000 crores at a price of [ INR 250 ] per share. This is the largest buyback that Wipro has announced, and we expect to buy back 5.7% of the paid-up capital. The buyback is expected to complete in Q1 '27 subject to shareholder approval. Our endeavor has always been to return a substantial portion of the cash generated in our -- through our operations back to our shareholders in FY '26 alone, we distributed dividends of $1.3 billion, taking our total payout ratio for 3-year block ending FY '26 to about 88%, which is significantly higher than the minimum threshold of 70% that we have as per our capital allocation policy. With that, I will hand it over for Q&A. Operator: [Operator Instructions] We'll take our first question from the line of [ Pratik Maheshwari ] from HSBC Securities..Sorry, his line is disconnected. We'll go on to the next question from the line of Sandeep Shah from Equirus Securities. Sandeep Shah: Sir, the first question is, there has been a good large deal wins, which has happened on the one end as well as fourth quarter of last year. And we kept on telling about delay in these large deals, which was expected to come in Q3, then we said Q4, then we said it will come 1Q, but the guidance does not show that. despite the nature of the deal being cost takeout when it comes to consolidation. Why is this delays happening? Srinivas Pallia: Thanks, Sandeep. This is Srini here. Thanks for your question. Let me just talk about the quarter 4 performance in the context of the 4 SMUs we had. Three out of the 4 SMUs, Americas, well, Europe and APMEA have grown sequentially. Having said that, specifically Americas 2, we saw significant softness. And this is specific to the BFSI sector there. This has been a combination of both client-specific issue and delayed ramp-up that you're talking about. The reason for the delay is a very client specific, but we see that opportunity coming up sooner than later, and that will give us the growth in that particular account and that particular sector. Sandeep Shah: Okay. And do you believe second quarter onwards, there could be ramp-up can actually pull up the growth? Or you believe plan-specific issue because of the geopolitical issuance macro may continue? Srinivas Pallia: So as far as this particular client is concerned, it will end in quarter 1, Sandeep, and there is no further impact for us materially. That's number one. Number two, as far as geopolitics is concerned and we have not seen any clients at this point in time, demonstrating any specific behavior. And also, if you reflect on the pipeline that we have across the market, including countries and across the sectors, a very strong pipeline. Of course, it's a very competitive landscape, and the competition is very intense. And the way we have gone ahead with the Olam deal, which is a very transformational deal, long-term deal also taking their entire IT into Wipro welcoming them into the Wipro family. The second one that we announced yesterday, which was part of the vendor consolidation, the kind of deals that are coming off are very different but very strategic, and we are staying focused on execution for us, which will help us quarters ahead. Sandeep Shah: Okay. And just last two, there has been a notable decline in our top line. What is the reason for the same? And second, can you give us the inorganic growth contribution you were factored in the first quarter growth guidance? Aparna Iyer: So these 2 deals that we've announced in this month, Sandeep, are a part of our guidance. At the midpoint, we've assumed both these deals to start yielding revenues for 1.5 months, halfway through the quarter. To your point on the top count growth, it's a sequential decline. But from a year-on-year standpoint, it continues to have grown. And we are very confident that it will continue to come back as we go through the quarters. Sandeep Shah: Okay. Okay. Is it possible to quantify inorganic growth in the guidance? Aparna Iyer: They are not inorganic. They are actually strategic deal wins. If you look at it, Olam is a strategic deal win with -- it's a relationship that is -- has committed revenue. So -- and even the other 1 that we announced was part of the vendor consolidation strategy, for 1 of our top clients, and we continue to participate in these kind of deals. And both will be a part of our numbers and our guided range. Operator: Next question is from the line of Ravi Menon from Axis Capital. Ravi Menon: Beyond the top customers where we've seen a sharp decline, we also been top 25 customers also declined slightly. The top customer decline although we said it's temporary. It's a very sharp decline. Can you talk a bit about what led to this? And why -- what gives you confidence that this will be temporary. Aparna Iyer: Ravi, if you look at it, our top client has been producing a healthy growth for us for a fairly long size right? This kind of one-off quarter volatility is not something that we are unduly concerned about. The relationship remains very strong, and you should continue to see it bounce back. Ravi Menon: And the unbilled revenue has grown this quarter more than $80 million. And then we also see some long-term unbilled revenue. Could you talk a bit about what's led to the [indiscernible] how should we see that trend? Aparna Iyer: No. So I don't think -- see, the unbilled revenue that has gone up is more a quarterly aberration. It should correct itself from a quarter on. I mean, from a year-on-year standpoint, actually, our DSO has remained flattish. Like I said, our operating cash flow has remained 112% of net income we are not seeing any large exposures or pile up of unbilled in our balance sheet. From a unbilled standpoint as well, I think it's fairly content and we have some consistent improvement. Yes, some of the larger deals as they pick up, we are open to -- they will come with some amount of balance sheet leverage, but nothing that's unduly different than what we do as business as usual, Ravi. Operator: Next question is from the line of Dipesh Mehta from Emkay Global. Dipesh Mehta: A couple of questions. First on the -- part. You said BFSI weakness was because of 2 factors. One is client specific and second is delay in ramp-up. And 1 of the question answer you indicated about some of this is likely to be ending by quarter 1, which part you are indicating by Q1? Aparna Iyer: We have said that the client-specific issue that we have seen in 1 of our clients in Americas 2 has had an impact on both Q4 and Q1 and there won't be a continuing impact of that going forward. Dipesh Mehta: And what about the delay in ramp-up part? Aparna Iyer: Yes. So if I have to characterize, we've had several large deal bookings, right? Now the 1 that we announced on [ Phoenix ], it is fully ramped up 2 plants. There's no delay, right? If you look at the other 3 mega deals that we spoke of, 1 of them is on plan, and we are continuing to ramp up. We are seeing challenging 1 of those -- as we spoke about, where we are seeing a delayed ramp-up, which is, in particular, impacting the growth rate of that particular sector in that particular market unit. Outside of that, BFSI growth rate of pretty good in Europe and APMEA. As that client comes back and we start to ramp up, you will see those growth rates improve it. That is our job. Dipesh Mehta: And can you give some sense about that the what factor is leading to delay in ramp up whether -- so if you can provide some details around it, qualitatively, what is leading to some of those delays? Second question which I have is, if I look, let's say, the couple of projects in which we close or in the process of closing, we included in the guidance, if, let's say, any delay in some of those closures, do you see risk to that guidance kind of thing? Aparna Iyer: We guide in a range. There is -- like I said, we guided a range and there is a midpoint, and we have some cushion, both on the downside and on the upside. And for now, we are comfortable within that guidance. On the first point, Srini. Srinivas Pallia: Yes. Dipesh, Srini here. On the first point, this is a very client-specific issue, where they have changed a little bit of the strategy around some of the things as part of the business because of which they have delayed it. But having said that, we have the clear visibility going forward. It's about the matter of timing, when and how much, and that should help us going forward, Dipesh. Dipesh Mehta: Understood. And last question from my side. I just want to get some sense about how Capco is playing out. Srinivas Pallia: So Dipesh, as you know, Capco is a tip of the spear for the consulting piece on the -- side. They are definitely doing well. And if you look at sequentially, Capco is performing very well and also on the year-on-year, both have been very positive. And in fact, Capco had 1 of the highest revenues in the last several quarters. So Capco is making a big difference in terms of the whole AI advisory and consulting. And the way they are being proactively shaping the clients thought process in terms of the whole geopolitics and in terms of the trade and tariff and the technology transition has been really good. Operator: Next question is from the line of Vibhor Singhal from Nuvama Equities. Vibhor Singhal: Congrats Srini and Aparna for the buyback announcement finally. I know the market participants have been waiting for this 1 for quite a while. Two questions from my side... Operator: Sorry, Vibhor, you're sounding different. Vibhor Singhal: I'm sorry, sorry, just give me a second. [indiscernible]. Operator: Can you -- are you on your handset mode. Vibhor Singhal: Switch to the handset now? Operator: Yes, it is clear. Now please go ahead. Vibhor Singhal: Okay. Sorry for that. Yes. So a couple of questions from my side. Srini, on the energy and the -- verticals. This has been a vertical in which we've been very strong for quite a while. Just wanted to pick as to what are the conversations that you're having with the clients at this point of time because of the -- that is going around, will the crude prices and the volatility in it impact our business in this vertical, either positive or negative? Any conversations that have already started on that regard? Or is it too early to call out any impact of that on the segment? Srinivas Pallia: So Vibhor, from our perspective, if you look at the quarter 4, we have seen a sequential growth. And both manufacturing, particularly auto industrial, as seen impact otherwise on the reason for tariffs. Now coming specifically in the context of geopolitics, wherever, I think there is -- some of the clients are waiting and watching. But having said that, not dramatically changed their strategy. For example, what they're trying to do, especially in the manufacturing sector, if you will, they're looking at how do you secure the supply chain, make it more visible and more dynamic going forward. And that's some of the opportunities that we are looking at in the context of AI that can actually help. So that's the trend that we are seeing. Auto industry. Obviously, they're also looking at how the markets are going, and it varies from country to country in terms of how the business is going. And the third is in terms of overall manufacturing, we have not seen any clear change, but they have been constantly under pressure because of tariff flood disruptions that they're going through. And they're also looking at what kind of consumer demand they can have. And also they are keeping a close watch on the input cost because that will also impact their final product cost. So they are trying to sharpen their budgeting, I would say, tightening at this point in time. Vibhor Singhal: Got it. Got it. Good. My second question, Srini, was basically on -- again, sorry to have on the Q1 guidance, once again, as Aparna mentioned, we are taking around half -- 1.5 months of contribution from the new deal that would approximately come to around 0.7%, 0.8% of revenue. Then another -- 0.8% from the 1-month integral of HARMAN integration. That leads [indiscernible]. Operator: I'm sorry, Vibhor, you're sounding muffled again. Can you repeat the last part please? [Technical Difficulty] Okay. Now it's fine. Vibhor Singhal: Yes. I'm so sorry for the poor connectivity. Yes. So as -- I think the 2 deals will contribute 1.5 months of revenue, that's around 0.7%, 0.8% of revenue. HARMAN acquisition, 1 incremental month in Q1, again, that's another maybe 0.7%, 0.8%. So around 1.5% growth is coming from these 3 factors. So these aside, I think the remaining business seems to be quite a sharp line in Q1. You mentioned 1 of the client-specific issues, which you will continue to face in Q1. But are there any other significant client ramp-downs or any other delays that we are seeing because of which this Q1 growth -- organic growth or if I can call the growth beyond these 3 seems to be so weak? Aparna Iyer: You know DTS HARMAN is fully in our Q4 numbers... Vibhor Singhal: But in Q4, that was only 2 months. So on Q2, this will add another month in Q1? Aparna Iyer: No. No. Q4 was all 3 months. Yes. So that is not -- that is the only inorganic piece and our growth for Q1 is -- yes, there are these 2 deals that we've spoken about, which will be there, and it will add to our revenues in Q1. And we've assumed that they will start yielding revenues mid-quarter. Vibhor Singhal: Mid-quarter. Got it, got it. Aparna Iyer: Yes. [indiscernible] organic growth, are these strategies taken. Yes. Vibhor Singhal: Very much point taken. Just my last question on the margins. I think very strong performance on the margins in this quarter despite wage hike and HARMAN integration as well. Do we believe these margins are sustainable in the coming quarters as well, given that we'll have a couple of these deals -- out deals also that we will be factoring in? Do you believe you will be able to maintain their margins at around the current levels as we have always maintained. As we've always stated that this is our target range? Aparna Iyer: Yes, there are 3 areas where we are going to be investing in. We've already rolled out the wage hike effective first March. So we will have 2 months incremental impact, which will have to be absorbed, right, in Q1. Two, we are winning among these large deals, and they are 1 in a competitive environment. They will come with their share of lower margins, especially as we start these deals, right? Second, there is certainly around capabilities. We've acquired the DTS HARMAN connected services fees, which will -- which is also putting pressure on margins. And as I look ahead, we will continue to actually accelerate investments, especially around Wipro Intelligence, the platform unit that we have announced. And it will need a lot of investment that we will work through and share with you transparently as we go through the process as we form our strategy around it, that will also be an area of focus for investment. Given all this, we will have to drive operational improvement that is a continuous process, as you know. And like I said, maybe we see some quarter-on-quarter volatility, but our endeavor is going to be that in medium term, we continue to drive that productivity and cost takeout and deliver on the promise of actually AI helping us to deliver our fix-price programs better. And we continue to optimize all other over. Now as we do that, hopefully, we are able to keep our margins in the medium term in [indiscernible]. Operator: We'll take our next question from the line of [ Prateek Maheshwari ] from HSBC Securities. Unknown Analyst: So Srini, I've got a couple of questions. So I'm sorry for harping again on Americas 2. Just wanted to understand that, there are the client specific issue that you guys have faced in the fourth quarter and you facing the first quarter spend. However, if I look at Americas 2 over a 1-year period or a 3-year period, it seems that there's been a [indiscernible] there been multiple clients specific issues that have happened. So just wondering to understand your thoughts on this if it is a mere coincidence or how -- what are your thoughts on this? And just second question from [indiscernible] around the AI partnerships. So we are seeing our larger peers have -- along the parties with probably [indiscernible] like once said[indiscernible] but we haven't heard a lot from you -- so just wanted to understand how you guys are planning around this. And if you were the planning for [ GTM ] these models as well. Srinivas Pallia: Thanks, Pratik. You're right, AI is a central strategy for Wipro. 2 quarters back, we had launched Wipro Intelligence, which is a combination of industry and cross industry and functional platforms and solutions. And this quarter, the last quarter, we announced the formation of year native business and platform unit. The reason why we are doing it is in the last 2 quarters based on our experience, both in terms of industry platforms and the delivery platforms, which is WINGS for run and operate and Vega our [ DLC ] life cycle, which is more on the change in transform side. We have seen a very good traction. The clients feel very comfortable with the way we have put the guardrails making sure we align the technology to what they are actually using, making sure it is secure, reliable and responsible as well. Also, in terms of the productivity benefits that we can offer to them, both in the existing engagement and also the new engagements we plan to do. And we will continue to invest in this. And I think Aparna called out as well that Wipro Intelligence and the new AI-native business and platform unit is going to pivot us into our services as a software industry. So while we continue to deliver the services to our clients, this should help us to actually create a software-as-a-service through our platform model. We already saw some success with our platforms. be it in Health Care, be it in Banking, Insurance, Telecom. So we want to see that because the clients are actually feeling very comfortable with the fact that the whole platform is native, which is AI powered and it's able to well integrate into their domain with the kind of agent and agentic operations we're trying to bring in. So that investment will continue, [ Prateek ]. Unknown Analyst: First question, if you could share also -- so the question was that there's been multiple client issues over the years. Just wanted to understand what your thoughts on that. Srinivas Pallia: Yes. I think this quarter, last quarter, it was something that we called out as well, very specifically for the 2 reasons like you mentioned in your question itself. But 1 is the specific client ramp-up that has not happened upon I talked in detail about that. But we feel -- and I also answered that question, we feel fairly confident that clients come back because there was some directional change, and they wanted to pause before they had the clarity around that. The second 1 was something that the account-specific issue that happened, which impacted for us in quarter 1 and in addition to quarter 4. Having said that, if you look at our top accounts, they continue to stay focused on our top accounts with a very clear account management strategy. And in fact, many of our clients are asking us to come back and help them in terms of AI advisory and consulting in terms of how to navigate in the AI world. So what's important for our account team is to be very proactive and leverage to Wipro and platforms and solutions and kind of help the client through this disruption process. Unknown Analyst: Srini, If you could allow me to squeeze 1 more question. I just wanted to ask, you said that you have a positive view on BFSI in APMEA and also in Europe. So just wanted to ask outside of the client-specific issue that you may face in the first quarter, do you have a positive view on the USPs as side well. Srinivas Pallia: So I think from an overall -- I think the best way for me to reflect, [ Prateek ], in your question is the kind of pipeline that we have. And -- talk about having a very secular pipeline across industries and across markets. And your question specifically to BFSI, if you were to look at Americas and Europe and APMEA. And also the Capco question that came up. We continue to see very good traction. We continue to see a very good pipeline. And some of this, what the kind of work that Capco does is very consulting-led and advisory-led. And we also want to see how those implementations for the clients can happen. And for me, clearly, from a BFSI perspective, right, very clearly, the client wants to invest in AI around data platforms and agentic workflows and security. And while they are continuing to optimize but the spend in this specific area around AI, data and cloud continues. Operator: We'll take our next question from the line of Abhishek Shindadkar from Incred Research. Abhishek Shindadkar: Can you hear me? Operator: Yes. Abhishek Shindadkar: The first question is regarding the contribution for HARMAN. So when we gave the guidance last time, in the third quarter, the 0.8% was the contribution. And incrementally, 2 months was assumed when we gave the fourth quarter guidance. Can you just quantify what would have been the contribution for this quarter? Or if you can just quantify the organic growth for us? That's the first question. And I'll just ask the second 1 later. Aparna Iyer: So your question is around how much did the HARMAN acquisition contribute in Q4? Is that your question? Abhishek Shindadkar: Yes. Aparna Iyer: So we actually made a stock exchange filing around the revenues of the organization. You can assume the quarterly run rate around that much. Abhishek Shindadkar: Understood. That's helpful. The second thing is on the top client and maybe it has been asked, but not just the top, but if I look at the top 5. And if I look at the client metric and the attrition across some of the larger accounts, do you for this kind of stopping or halting in the next quarter? Or we may continue to see some challenges in the accounts, larger accounts even in the next quarter? Aparna Iyer: I think our overall growth rate also tend to reflect in our top client metric growth rates as well, right? That said, if you -- like if you had to look at the year-on-year performance of our top client and it's been largely flattish year-on-year constant currency actually has grown on a year-on-year constant currency by 0.2%. And top 10 have grown a positive 1.5% on year-on-year constant balance. And therefore, are we unduly worried about the top relationships that we have, no, we're not worried about it. That said, our constant endeavor is to continue to win with our largest client in the market. and some of the wins that we have announced even this bag are towards that. So you will continue to see us growing and expanding this because this is the way in which our growth will come from. It's our #1 strategic priority. We will work with large clients, and that is the endeavor. Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that was the last question for today. I would now like to hand the conference back to Mr. Abhishek Jain for closing comments. Over to you, sir. Abhishek Jain: Thank you all joining the call. In case we could not take any questions due to time constraints, please feel free to reach out to the Investor Relations. Have a nice day. Thank you. Operator: On behalf of Wipro Limited, that concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.
Operator: Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Kinnevik First Quarter Report 2026 Webcast and Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Rubin Ritter, Interim CEO. Please go ahead. Rubin Ritter: Welcome, everyone, also from my side. Thank you for joining. My name is Rubin. I'm Interim CEO at Kinnevik since about 4 weeks. This is my first earnings call. And so far, I'm enjoying the work with the team. It has been very busy weeks. So there is a lot to talk about. And I would suggest we get started right away. I will be presenting today together with our CFO, Samuel, who you all will know quite well. Just to briefly go through the agenda, I will start with some reflections on our priorities and actions over the last weeks, and then Samuel will talk about the investee operational development, our NAV capital allocation, and then we'll have time for Q&A. So maybe to start out with a very simple question, which is why are we here? What's the purpose of Kinnevik? And in my mind, there is kind of a simple answer to that question, which is that our purpose is to be good stewards of our shareholders' capital and then generating attractive returns while taking appropriate levels of risk. There are probably also other more ambitious answers to that question, but I like this as a starting point for what we want to talk about today. And then, of course, I also want to mention that Kinnevik obviously has a long history of living up to that promise and doing exactly this. But what do we need to be good stewards of our shareholders' capital also in the future? I think we need a culture that is focused on joint achievement and on performance. We obviously need that within our own team at Kinnevik, but we also need that as an expectation towards our portfolio companies. In this context, I think it's important to strive for values like true ownership. So I want everybody on the team to act like an owner. Accountability, I want everybody to feel accountable for the outcomes that we generate. Focus on simplicity, which to me means to focus on the few things that really drive value and to not do anything else than that, and to do those few things in the most simplest way possible. And then also clarity and candor, which to me comes back to honest and truth seeking debate in the team. So this is really the type of values that I want to strengthen within Kinnevik during my time as interim CEO. So in the spirit of clarity and candor, let's start by confronting some hard facts. In the first quarter of 2026, our portfolio is down 22%. That is a substantial number. It's driven by primarily 3 effects: The first one being a derating of our listed peers due to macro and AI. Secondly, continued challenges that we see in the Climate Tech portfolio. And then thirdly, of course, also our own evolving views on our portfolio. Now of course, we can debate if we all agree with the market's assessment that has been quite harsh, for example, on SaaS companies recently, and personally, I probably disagree with some of that, and I would find that many of the founders that we work with will actually find good ways to leverage AI to their advantage. But I think the bottom line is that we need to accept that the market price for many of our portfolio companies just has changed, and we are reflecting that really to the full extent in our NAV. Now as a first consequence of the ongoing portfolio review, which is not concluded, but has started, we have taken the first decision, which is to discontinue the sector of Climate Tech. I personally actually believe that Climate Tech has a great purpose. And so I don't really kind of like this decision personally. But then again, if we just look at the hard facts and take an honest view, I think it's clear that we have not been able to live up to our expectations. And by the way, just to mention, I think we're not alone with that. It is a sector that has been challenged in many ways and has been difficult for many investors. So on that basis, we have taken the decision to not make new investments in the sector and also not to report it separately going forward. However, of course, we will continue to be good and supportive shareholders to the assets that we do own. We have also done some work to simplify our reporting. I hope you have noticed, we have reduced the length of our reporting from about 40 to about 20 pages. We have tried to make it more plain and we'll continue to work on this going forward. We have also decided to discontinue the idea of core companies. I understand that this concept has been helpful in many of the discussions around the portfolio in terms of focusing on some of the maybe larger holdings. But I also think it has introduced a kind of strategic rationale to the portfolio discussion by saying some companies are core and others are not. So I believe that this distinction might not be helpful to a company like Kinnevik, so we will not report on that dimension going forward. Just to be clear, of course, all 5 of these companies are very important to us, but they are important because of their scale, because of their quality, because of their potential, because of their founders and not because they are core or strategic in nature. Now we have also worked intensely in the team to review our organization and our ways of working. And we have and the leadership team decided on some organizational changes that are far reaching. In my assessment, I saw many things that I liked. I see high engagement with the team. I see a sense of deep loyalty to Kinnevik. I see a desire to collaborate and to do well and to improve and to learn and to grow. But I also think that when I look at the organization as it is today, I don't feel it's necessarily fit for purpose and fit for what we want to do in the future. And I think that relates to its size, but also in many ways to its complexity. And I would like really to make a shift from a mindset that feels a bit focused on different departments and different views more towards a feeling of being one team where just people have different roles and different accountabilities, but ultimately, are one and the same team. So the goal is to be smaller and more focused in our organization to enable more direct communication, stronger collaboration, alignment and then also faster decision-making. I hope that by doing these changes, every team member will have clearer accountability and also the ability to create more impact for the team and for our shareholders. We have also worked intensely on a cost review. And this, I think, ties really back directly to the concept of stewardship. Because when we look at how we invest, we invest really from our own balance sheet, which means literally every krona that we spent unnecessarily is a krona that we cannot invest and cannot make compound for our shareholders. I think in this context, we also have to consider that we do not have cash generating assets in the portfolio currently. So a first review of our cost base signals a significant savings potential that we want to realize by the end of this year. And we aim for a target level of management cash cost of around SEK 200 million per year, starting by 2027. I'll actually come back to that point on the next page with a bit more detail. Now also in the spirit of making every krona account, I think we also need a very disciplined follow-on approach. Many companies in our portfolio are investing to grow fast, and so they should. And I think this is also exciting because the value of many of these companies lies in the future. So we should be investing. And I also believe that our role as investors is to support these companies on the journey. And sometimes also, that means to be investors in follow-up rounds, which I see as a great opportunity to be presented with those opportunities to allocate more capital. At the same time, I think to be good stewards of our capital, of course, we need to be disciplined in these decisions. We need to look at a variety of factors, at the long-term potential of the company but also at the execution track record, the financial performance, the competitive moats and how they are building and evolving, the question of whether or not we can build a substantial stake in the business and have the influence that we would want to have, and also at our own return expectation, which needs to be balanced with the risk that we are taking. So I look at ourselves as a supportive shareholder. But I think it's also important to say that we have the ability and maybe sometimes also the obligation to say no if we think that the investment is just not right for us. So in that context, our goal is to invest not more than SEK 1.5 billion in follow-up rounds in the existing portfolio. And we should not think of this as a budget, but more think of this as a cap. So some of the things that I outlined here will help us to preserve cash. And I think that is important also for my role as interim CEO because my objective is to provide optionality for a permanent CEO. By reducing management cash cost and by being disciplined on follow-on investments, I think we're doing exactly that. And my expectation is that this would leave Kinnevik with around SEK 5 billion in discretionary investment capacity. Of course, this number is not including any capital from potential exits in the coming years. In the context of preserving cash to create investment capacity, the Board is not pursuing share buybacks at this time. Also, the Board is proposing that the AGM provide authorization to the Board to be able to decide on buybacks in the future. So to briefly summarize, and I realize that this has been a lot, but I guess also a lot has been going on. So there's a lot to talk about. But just to recap, I think our purpose is to be good stewards of shareholders' capital, generating attractive returns with an appropriate level of risk. And we have a long-standing history of doing just that. But we are also on a journey where many things will change, and we are working on a number of levers, focusing on those things that we can influence to make sure that we also live up to that purpose in the future. So there's a lot of work to do, and I'm very confident that we'll make good progress in the coming weeks and that these steps will make the company stronger. Now there are just 2 areas where I would like to provide a bit more background. The first one is the cost reduction and the cost review. So just to briefly walk you through our logic. We have started with the 2025 reported management cost, which was SEK 341 million. We have then deducted all noncash items, which are primarily depreciation, amortization and LTIP and then have arrived at the management cash cost for 2025 of SEK 313 million, which is kind of our baseline. And I really wanted to talk about cash cost because cash is king. So that's what we should be talking about. We have then made our considerations around the target of how we think the team should be set up for the coming years and the review of nonpersonnel costs. And on that basis, we have defined SEK 200 million as our new target annual management cash cost. Now you should think of this number as kind of a steady-state cost number. So it might deviate in some cases, such as inflation, FX changes, changes in cash-based incentives that depend on the outcome of those years and the related performance but also significant deal-related or other one-off costs. So to get to this target rate, we are targeting a reduction of about 35%, which I think is substantial. And we are aiming to take the restructuring costs that might be associated with this primarily this year. Of course, now the task will be to make those changes without taking away anything that is material to our performance and value creation. And I think there is a good path of doing that. We'll be working to implement these changes in this year and then aim to reach the new target cost level for the full year in 2027. The second area I wanted to dive a bit deeper into is the idea of cash preservation. So you should think of this chart not as an exact plan, but more as a way to think about it and an indication. So per the end of this quarter, of the Q1, so the last quarter, we have SEK 7.5 billion on the balance sheet. And I think the goal is to spend as little of this as possible. And if we would look at what we have to spend going forward. It's, first of all, the cost for our own team, which I just talked about. If we take a reserve for that for the coming 5 years, 5 x 200, gets us to SEK 1 billion. And then I've talked about the follow-on where we want to stay below SEK 1.5 billion for the current portfolio, which brings us then to SEK 5 billion in cash that will be available to the next CEO, and my goal is to maximize that number. So with that, I hand over to Samuel to take us through the following sections. Samuel Sjöström: Thanks, Rubin, and good morning, everyone. So I'll cover investee performance. I'll work my way into NAV, and then I'll end on capital allocation. Then we'll open up for Q&A, after which, Rubin will give some closing remarks. On performance, based on preliminary numbers, our larger companies have started the first months of 2026 broadly on plan. In Q1, our health investees grew revenues by 28% on average compared to last year and improved EBITDA margins by 3 percentage points. And our software investees grew by 32%, while improving margins by 7 percentage points. In the quarter, we also saw Enveda continue to deliver on important milestones. Their discovery platforms, lead drug candidate, completed very successful Phase Ib studies demonstrating both efficacy results well above the current standard of care and clear signals that the drug is well tolerated and safe. These are promising results, which the company will now try to confirm in Phase II studies. So operationally, our larger companies outside of Climate Tech have had a solid start to the year. But as reflected in the significant public market volatility, there are material and continued uncertainties out there, both in the short term and in the long term. And for us, I'd say that sits mainly in 3 areas. Firstly, rising oil prices clearly may impact air travel, and that would hold back growth at Perk and Mews. Now we're yet to see that come through in actual reported performance, and our forecast do not incorporate this potential impact, but I should say that Perk shared some observations of the recent travel trends that they're seeing a few weeks ago, and we've put a link to that on this slide. Secondly, there is continued uncertainty around U.S. policies for federal funding of Medicaid and Medicare. Now that's something we, probably you and Cityblock clearly have grown accustomed to in the last quarters, and it's something that we're trying to factor into our projections. Thirdly, the key topic across our focus sectors is AI disruption and how this is feeding into the long-term growth expectations, terminal values and thereby, ultimately, share price performance of public software companies. We published an article on our website that combines our perspectives with some insights from across the portfolio. And while these clearly do nothing to alleviate the compression in public market multiples, we feel they do provide important nuances when one reflects on our conviction in the longer-term outlook for our companies. But moving to Page 7, the way public markets digested AI disruption was the primary driver of valuations this quarter. We saw broad and significant multiple contraction across our public peer sets, particularly in software and software like health care technology services. It is evident that capital is rotating into other sectors with public software being the weakest performer year-to-date with index declines of around 20% to 25%. As a result of this uncertainty and rebalancing, the sector is now trading at its lowest multiples in roughly 15 years. This drawdown was fairly indiscriminate across types of companies, but we do see a few patterns. Two in particular stand out and they also resonate with our own hypothesis. And that's, firstly, that fast-growing companies continue to command significant valuation premiums in public markets. And secondly, looking at share prices over a longer time period than just Q1, more vertical software companies that provide specialized services have outperformed less critical horizontal application companies. And these stronger performing companies are often not only the systems of record, but also form core workflow systems. And this, many argue, should enable AI and vertical software to become more of a feature than a threat. Again, please make sure to read the article that I mentioned that we posted on our website. And please also note that we're providing some subcategories of peer groups in our standard spreadsheet published on our website this quarter. And as trading patterns in public market evolve, the subcategorization may grow in importance going forward. Having said all of that, again, in Q1, the market drawdown was still fairly indiscriminate. So what we're doing on this page is that we're showing the quarter's changes in multiples in our larger investees, and we compare them to the trading of their respective public peer groups. The black lines chart the multiple movement from the bottom to the top decile company in each peer group, and the red label dots represent our larger companies. As you can see, we have generally stayed within the trading ranges that we've seen in public markets when we reassess the multiples we value our businesses at. And we've also considered the recency of larger transactions in companies like Mews and Oviva that warrant a somewhat milder but still substantial multiple contraction. In other cases, like Cedar and Pleo, we've been a bit harsher considering the lower growth profile of these companies relative to other industries. Our valuation model suggests that this is fairly proportionate to what we're seeing in public markets, where slower growing public software companies have traded down some 10 percentage points more than their faster-growing equivalents. And lastly, at Cityblock, we've focused more on the trading of the more tech-enabled peers rather than the traditional care providers to try and reflect this underlying market narrative. Moving to Page 8 to put this multiple headwind in absolute terms, it brought an SEK 8.3 billion negative impact on private valuations this quarter. And that obviously makes it the driver of our private portfolio decreasing in value by 29% in the quarter. Adding net cash and public assets, NAV was down 22% in the quarter and in Q1 at SEK 27.9 billion or SEK 101 per share. Going by sector. Health & Bio was down 20% and software, the sector most vulnerable to public market multiple contraction, was down 38%. Our Climate Tech companies, meanwhile, were down a meaningful 56% in aggregate, and this was a decline driven more by individual company circumstances. The main driver was the announcement of the funding round at Stegra in which we have elected not to invest. And with the clarity gained here, we've taken a revised view of the fair value of our investment and have decided to write it down to EUR 10 million. If the company hits the business plan that underpins this funding round, we expect to be able to recoup our full investment over the coming 5 to 6 years. And we've discounted this expectation at a conservative rate of return to reach the fair value that we report today. As Rubin mentioned, we've narrowed our sector focus. That entails us not making any new investments in Climate Tech, and it also means changes to how we categorize our NAV. And as we make this change in today's report, we have made sure to provide a full breakdown of the fair values of each company in Climate Tech and the valuation reassessments that we're making this quarter. And on our website, you will also find the spreadsheet providing a historical pro forma NAV overview based on this new amended categorization. In our NAV statement in today's report, we now also show the value of our investments based on the last transaction that we've noted in each company. In the current market volatility, fair value ranges widened and our valuation process places a very short expiry date on transaction-based valuations. But we hope you find this additional detail helpful, nonetheless. More specifically, over the last 12 months, we've seen transactions in 46% of our private portfolio by value at a 9% weighted average premium to our preceding NAV assessment. So the transaction pace in our portfolio has come down a bit over the last quarters. And moving to Page 9, you also see that reflected in our capital allocation in Q1. Because in the quarter, our only investment was effectively the completion of our EUR 20 million participation in Mews' funding round that we announced earlier this year in connection with our Q4 report. Net investments amounted to SEK 116 million after the sale of a real estate property as part of the rightsizing of our cost structure that Rubin went through. And after HQ costs and treasury income, our net cash balance was largely unchanged in the quarter ending at SEK 7.5 billion. So our financial strength and flexibility remains strong, and is reinforced by the cost savings and the SEK 1.5 billion follow-on expectation for the existing portfolio that Rubin went through. And looking ahead, we're continuing to execute on the capital allocation priorities that we laid out earlier this year, driving towards a more concentrated and more mature portfolio. And with that, we'd like to open up for Q&A before Rubin gives his closing remarks. Operator: [Operator Instructions] Now we're going to take our first question. And it comes from the line of Linus Sigurdson from DNB Carnegie. Linus Sigurdson: So starting if you could help us break down these SEK 1.5 billion you're talking about. Is this primarily through continued participation in primaries in the larger companies? Is it tilted more towards the emerging companies? I guess, especially, as you mentioned, it excludes some of the opportunities for follow-ons? Rubin Ritter: Yes, sure, happy to give some more color on that. So I think the SEK 1.5 billion is derived by going through the portfolio and looking at where do we see follow-on demand coming up in the coming years, and then just taking the sum of that. Of course, those things are difficult to foresee. So it might be more tilted towards younger companies. It might be tilted to companies that already have larger scale. But overall, the idea is that this is the amount that we expect we -- the limit to what we might need to bring the portfolio to profitability in follow-on rounds. I think separate from that, I just think it's important to underline that to me, if there is one company in the portfolio that reaches scale and profitable growth and starts to go into the phase where you would talk of them as a compounder that continues to execute, but on the basis of a much more mature profile or as being listed. And then if Kinnevik were to decide to double down on that asset and take a larger ownership stake, to me, that would be a different logic. And that would fall into the SEK 5 billion discretionary investment that we might choose to make going forward. So this is, I think, a bit how our thinking of the SEK 1.5 billion differs from the SEK 5 billion that the firm has available long term. Linus Sigurdson: Okay. That's clear. And then if you could talk a bit about how you've set up processes to make potential exits? I mean should we think about this as a portfolio wide effort? Are you targeting certain types of companies? And if this is what you mean when you say the portfolio review is not concluded. Rubin Ritter: No. I'm sorry. By saying that the portfolio review is not concluded, I'm just sort of indicating that in the 4 weeks that I have been here, I have not been able to dive deep into every one of those assets, right? So we have started with that, and you see that already some decisions have come out of that process. But I think for practical purpose, we are still in the middle of it. I mean, Kinnevik has more than 30 portfolio companies. And I think it takes time to go through that, and it will take us more time going forward. In terms of exits, so I think for Kinnevik in the midterm, it would be wise to move towards a more concentrated portfolio. At the same time, I think it's very difficult to time these things. And I also think it's not in the best interest of our shareholders to rush into exits. So there I think we just have to be balanced in how we approach it. Linus Sigurdson: Okay. I appreciate that. And then my final question, I mean, I can understand this waiting to pursue buybacks ahead of a permanent CEO being in place and your comments around optionality and the SEK 5 billion. But what types of actions do you envision a permanent CEO could take? Rubin Ritter: I'm not sure I fully understand the question, but I think a new CEO could take all sorts of actions, primarily also defining what will be new focus areas for investments going forward and how do we want to complement the existing portfolio that we do have that, as we know, consists primarily of younger companies, fast-growing companies, how do we want to complement that with investments potentially in other sectors or with a different maturity profile. Those will be decisions to be taken by a new CEO, also in line with the new strategy going forward. Operator: The question comes line of Derek Laliberte from ABG Sundal Collier. Derek Laliberte: I appreciate the clarity. I wanted to follow up on the potential exits here going forward. I mean, how do you view the possibilities for that? And how high on the agenda is it right now as it could sort of change your outlook for what you provided for the balance sheet going forward? I mean looking at some of this, especially the prior core assets, it seems quite clear that they are quite attractive in sort of the private market space. So how do you think around that? Rubin Ritter: Yes, as indicated, I think directionally, over the next years, I would like to see a more concentrated portfolio. So I think that is something that we definitely will look at and consider. But then at the same time, we live in a very volatile world. I think it's very difficult to give more color or like a specific forecast on how exactly that will play out. So I think we just will be investing a lot of time to go through the portfolio to review the different options that we have. And I can promise to you, we'll be very active in thinking about where to take the portfolio and what actions would be in the best interest of our shareholders. I just find it very hard to make specific forecasts on that topic. So I would not want to promise something that is then hard to influence because it also depends on many other factors. And I think it would be wise for us -- like if I think of this as my portfolio, I think I would try to really carefully strike that balance to become more concentrated going forward, but then also to try to find the right time and the right moment and the right price if I wanted to make any exits. Derek Laliberte: Great. That's very understandable. And on the write-downs here, I mean, apart from the peer declines outside of Climate Tech, what do you mean about what has changed in your underlying view of the assets outside there because we see Perk being down 43% and Pleo down by 40%, which does some pretty extremely in the light of how peers have moved and also the latest transaction values in the market. Samuel Sjöström: Derek, it's Samuel. I'll try to answer that one. So naturally, our views and our companies are evolving continuously. But as we stated in today's report and in the prepared remarks, there hasn't been any meaningful changes to the outlooks for our larger companies in this quarter. So what we're trying to do here and what our process is trying to sort of apply onto our private portfolio is this very substantial drawdown in public markets. And there, we believe, and the models tell us that it should be affecting our investees in varying degrees. So as you rightfully state, Oviva and Mews have recently raised funding rounds. That typically leads to slightly milder but still meaningful write-downs because as I mentioned, the expiry date on transaction valuations in this type of volatile market is very, very short. And then we have companies that are growing slower, such as Cedar and Pleo. And the data tells us that those should be impacted slightly harder than a company growing a bit faster all else equal. And you mentioned Perk. Clearly, there, we have a comparable in Navan. That company is trading at around the same levels it was doing at the turn of the year. So our process makes us feel obliged to move closer to where Navan is trading, even though our view on Perk's long-term value creation potential has not changed one bit. So I'd say the write-downs you're seeing and the variations in write-downs you're seeing in this quarter is less driven by a change in view on our individual companies or their performance. It's about how to apply this very significant derating in public markets across a set of investees that share some characteristics and have some differences in between them. Derek Laliberte: Appreciate the clarity. And then looking at the 10 largest assets you list here, can you say something about which of these you are the most sort of comfortable with in light of the potential of AI disruption here? And where do you see the biggest risks in the portfolio? Samuel Sjöström: So naturally, as you can imagine, we and our companies are spending a lot of time assessing how our company's best can adapt to a changing environment, not something that clearly we're used to. I don't want to reduce the write-up that we've put up on our website to a 30-second answer. But to give you some examples, like we see very strong moats and aspects like Mews' ownership of quite complex workflows at hotels. We see moats and Enveda's ownership of proprietary data, and we see defensibility at Oviva in terms of the trust from customers and regulators that they've built up over several years of real-world operations. But I'd refer you to that write-up on our website. And I think in terms of how the risk of AI disruption is reflected in our valuations this quarter is mainly through this relatively indiscriminate derating that we're seeing in public peers. And we're not sort of trying to be smart when applying that in terms of thinking about the longer-term view on AI that we have in the piece on our website, but the valuation process is much more quantitatively driven. Derek Laliberte: Got it. Okay. And then just on this organizational simplification you're carrying out. I mean, looking forward, what will be sort of Kinnevik's action as an investor going forward as you see it? Rubin Ritter: Well, I think Kinnevik's focus really over the last years has been to invest into fast-growing challenger type companies that take on big problems and try to solve them differently through technology. And I think that is really the type of business that we have been focused on in the past. And of course, we'll also continue to work in that field and continue to evolve our view and continue to try to find great opportunities. But then I think in terms of how to build capabilities there, it's also, to a large extent, driven by what future strategies and future focus a permanent CEO looks at. And I think that can only be answered once that person is on board. When we think or when I think about the target org, we try to provide that flexibility in the way that we structure the work in our investment team, to do it in a way that we can continue to cover those sectors that we are focused on right now in a really good way. And in my mind, that's not always a function of the number of people. It's also a function of many other things. And then how to have the flexibility to add new ideas and investment themes that will define the future of Kinnevik once it is clear what those are. Derek Laliberte: Perfect. And finally, I mean, given that you're striving for more efficient operations, does having sort of 2 offices and teams align with that vision? Rubin Ritter: So in my mind, I think that going forward, Stockholm should be culturally, and also from where the team comes together, much more the center of gravity. We'll continue to have colleagues that live in different places across Europe and London will be one of them and will provide good opportunities for them to work there and meet companies. But I don't think we should think of that as a second half, not only in terms of the cost that presents, but also and maybe more importantly, in terms of what that presents in terms of having different cultures. I mean, Kinnevik is before the change and after the change, ultimately a small team. And I think there is a big benefit to have 1 physical place where the cultural center of gravity is. And I think, for Kinnevik, that should be in Stockholm. Operator: The question comes from the line of Bjorn Olsson SEB. Bjorn Olsson: Two questions on the organizational changes. First, could you give any more flavor in terms of where you expect to find the cost efficiencies? Is it from the investment teams, back office or just sort of across? And second, I mean, culture is something that's in the walls. So when you now strive to increase the performance culture in your company, do you have any sort of tangible actions planned in terms of either changed incentive schemes or any sort of change of key staff or similar? Rubin Ritter: Thank you for the question. So I think in terms of where we see savings potential, I think it's really -- we look at it across the board, and across all those different topics that you have mentioned. It comes down to a leaner target organization, but also then on nonemployee-related costs, there are opportunities that we see, such as office cost, IT cost and many others. So it gets very granular very quickly. But I think we just really also owe it to everybody that we do that tedious work. And essentially, we're looking at every single contract, and we are reviewing if we need it. And what is the value it creates, and is there a simpler and more efficient and better and also a cheaper way to do it. So that's clearly a focus. I think in terms of performance culture and achievement culture, you are 100% right that this is not something that can be impacted just within a few weeks. I think that is -- obviously, those processes take more time. And I think a lot of that will also be then hopefully brought forward by a new CEO. But to me, it is really a lot about leading by example, how do you take decision? What quality of argument do you accept? What do you not accept? So I think it's in the -- in many of the details of our daily collaboration that I think culture comes through. And just to be clear, that's also not just about me changing that, that's also about kind of the team bringing out the good things that we see and encouraging the team also to lead itself and each other in that regard. So I think that is something I'm quite passionate about and where I think we can make a lot of progress. You mentioned incentives. I mean incentives, of course, also play an important role. But to be fully frank, I haven't looked at that in the first 4 weeks, but I agree it's an important theme, and it will be important for the long-term success of the company that we get incentives right. That is, by the way, saying that they are not right, but they need to be right, and I haven't reviewed them yet. Bjorn Olsson: Good point. So then just a minor follow-up. So in terms of redundancy costs, when you're sort of rightsizing, that should probably be lower than if the FTE reduction is a smaller part of the SEK 100 million in cost savings? Rubin Ritter: I think personnel is a part, just like many other pieces, and there will be also redundancy costs related to personnel but also related maybe to other contracts that we might want to get out of. And the idea would be to incur the majority of that still this year. Operator: Now we're going to take our next question. And the question comes from the line of Oskar Lindstrom, Danske Bank. My apologies, there are no questions from Oskar. Now we'll proceed for the next question. And the question comes line of Johan Sjoberg from Nordea. Johan Sjoberg: I had a couple of questions actually. Starting off, Rubin, I mean, looking at your -- I understand you're 4 weeks into your temporary job and you have a lot on your plate right now. But on the other hand, I mean, you have tons of experience, you have aboard with a similar amount of experience. You have Samuel also, who is well on track, how things have been progressing with the 30 portfolio companies. So my question for you is how long time do you think it would take you to sort of get your head around all the companies, which was to sort of focus upon who will be sort of your concentrated portfolio over the coming -- in the foreseeable future? Rubin Ritter: Yes, sure. I mean I personally would think of it as a kind of ongoing process and ongoing discussions and considerations that we have in the team. And I think we also have many ideas in that regard already. And as you mentioned also, we're not doing everything from scratch. There is existing views and existing knowledge, obviously, in the team, right? So sometimes it's also just about following up on that and servicing those pieces. So I think we're incredibly focused on it. But I don't think it would be wise to now put ourselves in the corner by sharing specifically what our thoughts are on individual companies. I think that's not advisable. But as in any good investment company, I think those discussions should be ongoing as ordinary course of business also to just always be up-to-date on your portfolio on the different type of companies, and what our position on them should be going forward? Johan Sjoberg: I understand. So you have to sort of push a little bit here on the 30 portfolio companies. So when you talk about a more concentrated portfolio, what sort of range are we talking about here? Are we talking about below 20 or are we sort of -- once again, I understand it's early, and you don't want to sort of promise anything, but just for us to get some sort of feeling here. Rubin Ritter: Yes, right. I mean, to be frank, I think a lot of that also comes down to strategic decisions by a new CEO, but then I also don't want to shy away from an answer. In my view, it's not necessarily about a magic number. So I don't think there is kind of the perfect portfolio that is 10 or 15 or 25. But it's really about, in each of the companies to have a position that allows us to be a meaningful owner and to only have such a number of positions that you can cover with a kind of small, lean, but very experienced and high seniority team, that you have only positions where you can have a meaningful value add to those companies where you truly can be a great owner of that business and provide the right level of leadership to those companies. So those would be some of the considerations I would be focused on. And I don't have the number for you. I don't think of it in those terms, but I do think that the current number is too large. I think that is also given -- I mean we all know there is a large bucket of what we call other companies that has to do with previous strategies. And I think a lot of these things just have maybe a bit accumulated over time. And there we need to think through how to take that into a good direction going forward. Johan Sjoberg: Perfect. And we also talked a lot about the new CEO. Could you just give an update on how that process is ongoing here? It's been since November that the first decision was out. And you had a lot of time. I understand a lot of -- it's been a full headwind in Q1 in terms of how the market is viewing this sort of company, but also what is done right now. Rubin Ritter: Sure. I mean that search process is led by the Board and then more specifically, a subcommittee of the Board. And I'm sure they will give an update as soon as they have an update. But there's not really a whole lot more I can say on the issue. I'm on the subject. I'm right now incredibly focused on the inner workings of Kinnevik and all the work that we outlined in the presentation. Johan Sjoberg: Okay. Final question, Samuel, maybe you can help with this one. I mean just looking at the NAV or the write-down of NAV in the quarter, I think it's great that you have taken down the NAV because obviously, the market has not believed in sort of the underlying figures here. And sure, we've seen multiple contractions during the first quarter. But then on top of that, also you had some -- you also changed your view of growth for some of the few companies. And I guess, first of all, this is not a number, which I guess, Rubin, you feel much more comfortable with also, although just 4 weeks into the job. But just to get a feeling for, I mean, Samuel, maybe just looking at sort of the multiple impact on the write-down, how much would that be? And sort of what is the impact from your sort of changed view on the NAV also? Samuel Sjöström: Thanks, Johan. So I mean the easiest way to answer your question is to refer back to the page where we show that multiple contraction had a negative impact on NAV in excess of SEK 8 billion. And again, in terms of how we've applied the multiple compression we're seeing in public markets onto our portfolio, that is sort of flowing through our process, which is unchanged and is sort of intrinsically rigged, to be conservative, to be objective and to be as numbers driven as possible. And clearly, valuation levels in our portfolio has come down over the last quarters and last years. And I think that's 2 reasons mainly. Our portfolio has matured and that public comps have derated significantly. So in this quarter, specifically, we're taking that significant hit from the public peers. We've learned a lot over the last couple of years, and those learnings are clearly sort of ingested into our quantitative models. And then as always, there are individual considerations, but then again, those individual considerations are mainly of a technical and quantitative character in our different regression analysis and so on. So again, in terms of outlooks on our companies, looking at the larger investees as a group, those are largely unchanged. And in Q1, the larger companies have delivered on expectations. But yes, there is a lot to decipher in the public market moves in Q1. Johan Sjoberg: I'm just referring to sort of looking at the software down 38%. I mean just looking at sort of the presentation which you gave ahead of -- these are clearly below. And once again, I don't have a problem with it at all, but it seems like you have written it down more than sort of what the multiple seems to report, multiple contractions, that's sort of my -- maybe I'm wrong here. Rubin Ritter: To summarize, I think we are confident with the variations that we have put out in Q1. I think that's the bottom line of it. Operator: Now we're going to take our next question. And the question comes line of Oskar Lindstrom from Danske Bank. Oskar Lindström: I hope you can hear me this time. I have 2 sets of questions. The first one is on this ongoing portfolio review. And could you see adding back a cash flow-generating asset as opposed to more of the growth-oriented assets that you have today as part of the portfolio, again, to sort of have that balance between cash flow-generating assets and growth assets? That's my first question. Rubin Ritter: I think it's a very relevant question. And I think it also falls into that category of future strategy where, again, I just want to be careful with my own view, given that I'm also only here temporarily. But I think there is -- my personal view is, there is merit to what you are saying. And I think there needs to be the effort to make the portfolio more balanced. And my understanding is also, I don't oversee kind of the full 90-year history of Kinnevik, but my understanding is that also even though the company has a history of backing challengers and taking technology investments at early stages and kind of betting on the future in a way, in my understanding, that was at many times also balanced with more mature, more cash-generating assets in the portfolio, maybe also some of them being listed. And to me, that seems like an advisable idea because right now, of course, and that also became apparent when we went through the valuation exercise, one challenge that we clearly have, and I think it's also something that the team here internally really tries to live up to very hard, is that we have a portfolio of private fast-growing assets that are just really not easy to value. I think we can all agree on that. And then every quarter, of course, we have the expectation of public shareholders that want clarity and transparency, also for very understandable reasons. And every quarter, again, we have to kind of bridge that gap, and that's not an easy task to do, and that's also not easy on the team here internally. And I have also experienced that now firsthand when going through the valuations. So I think also in that regard, it might be a path to just make our lives a bit easier and also to generate a more balanced outcome for shareholders. So I think there's merits to that idea. But then again, I think it's also subject to the general strategic discussion going forward. Oskar Lindström: My second question is on the roughly SEK 1.5 billion of follow-up investments that you've talked about. How soon could that SEK 1.5 billion needs to be spent and you estimated? Is it like front loaded or sort of evenly over the years or how soon? Rubin Ritter: I really understand the question. And I think I would also love to know, I think that's the honest answer. I mean we have some view and some visibility on what demand might be coming in the coming months, but then it's also really difficult to forecast. And just maybe also to reiterate, I think it's really important to think of this not as a budget that we intend to spend, but it's more kind of an estimate or like a cap that we want to limit ourselves to because I also think in my perception in the market, there has been the perception that maybe the majority of the cash that we have might need to be deployed into the current portfolio. And I think our message is just that we really don't think that, that is the case necessarily. So that is the context why we have talked about this number, the SEK 1.5 billion. But then really, it will be a bottom-up exercise. I think every follow-on opportunity has to be assessed in its own right. I tried to speak to what are some of the characteristics and some of the analysis and some of the considerations we will make when we evaluate whether or not to participate in those rounds. And I think that is really what will be happening. So it's very much bottom-up. I wouldn't want to forecast it too detailed on a time line. And I think of the SEK 1.5 billion as an estimate and the maximum number. Oskar Lindström: Just a follow-up there. The SEK 1.5 billion, is that within the next 5 years? Just to clarify that once more. Rubin Ritter: Yes, I mean that's probably like a reasonable assumption. We talk about the existing portfolio, right? So like theoretically, it's a number into kind of eternity because we have the existing portfolio. It continues to drive towards profitability. And at some point, more and more of these companies just will not need further follow-on investments, right? So then they fall into a different category where we can, of course, always think about if we want to accrue to a larger stake because we think it's a company really want to be holding long term with a larger allocation, but that's been a different consideration, right? So as the portfolio grows towards profitability, that number will be deployed, and it's difficult to put a number on it, but probably 5 years is a valid assumption. Operator: [Operator Instructions] And now we're going to take our next question. And the question comes from the line of Nizla Naizer from Deutsche Bank. Fathima-Nizla Naizer: I just have two from my end as well. Rubin, thank you for your thoughts. And I was just curious, there must be some sort of conversations that come your way that says, look, with valuations crashing the way they've had, aren't there any opportunities in the market also to sort of deploy capital in some very interesting assets that are now probably attractively valued, maybe in sectors that are topical like AI? How do you sort of deal with those kind of topics that come your way, given Kinnevik at the end of the day is an investment holding company? Some color there would be great. And second, I guess, we're halfway into April, have you all seen the valuations of the peers that you're using as comps stabilize so far in Q2? Or has it also been volatile with the geopolitical sort of news that's out there? Some color there on what's going on with the comp base would be great quarter-to-date. Rubin Ritter: Great. Thank you. Maybe I can comment on the first question, and then Samuel can take the second question. So I think you have a great observation that obviously volatility always also creates opportunities. And it is exactly in that context that I also see Kinnevik's SEK 5 billion of cash available to investments as a great asset to be able to potentially act on opportunities. And I also expect the Board will continue to be volatile going forward. So I think in that context, that balance sheet just becomes a very strong asset in the way that I look at it. In terms of AI, I mean, Kinnevik already today has exposure also not only to software companies that are taking this new technology onboard very decisively, but also to some AI native companies. And here, maybe I can also point you to the piece that Samuel already has referred to on our website on building business -- our thoughts on building businesses in the age of AI. Samuel Sjöström: Yes, Nizla on what we're seeing in peers, April to date, I'd say that volatility remains very high. If you look at cloud ETFs, they were up 5% yesterday and a week ago, they were 10% lower than they are today. So it seems to continue to sort of bounce around, both in terms of share prices, but I'd say sort of the volatility and the underlying drivers seems high as well with new AI product releases every week and clearly, what's going on in the Middle East and the posturing from the U.S. administration. So volatility is persisting in April. In terms of absolute levels, they are roughly around where we ended Q1. But again, very volatile still out there. Operator: Dear speakers, there are no further questions for today. I would now like to hand the conference over to Rubin Ritter for any closing remarks. Rubin Ritter: Great. Thank you all for your participation, for your time, for your questions and the good discussion. Maybe just to reiterate, as we have also pointed out in the Q&A, Q1 has been a tough quarter in many ways to our shareholders, to the team, to the company overall. A lot of things have been happening. And I also think that during Q2, we will just be very busy as the world continues to be volatile, and as we start to take some of the steps that we have been discussing. We have been talking about the cultural shift that we want to work on, how we want to work on preserving cash, for optionality for the future and how we want to move towards a gradual portfolio concentration by balancing that with the time that it might need. And I think many of those changes will also take time and hard work. But at the same time, when I try to see through this, I also see many positive things. I'm just really convinced that the changes that we have talked about will make the company stronger. And I really think that the cash position that the company has will create options going forward. And as we just discussed, I think that's particularly valuable in a world that is as volatile as ours. I do think we have great companies with great potential in the portfolio. And even though we have talked about the NAV impact on this quarter, I think we just should not forget that these companies are there and that they continue to execute. And I see a quite good path and a good chance that their value will also become much more tangible going forward. So I think this provides the basis for the company being significantly stronger in the future than it may seem today, and that is what we as a team are really focused on. So thank you again for your time, and have a good day.

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